What happens if Prop. 32 passes?

SacBee: The State Worker ^ | 9/20/12 | Jon Ortiz

[SmithL]

Imagine it's Nov. 7, 2012.

Yesterday, California voters approved Proposition 32, ending payroll- deducted funds for politics and eliminating union and corporate contributions directly to candidates.

So now what?

Here come the lawyers. Attorneys live to probe ballot measures for legal loopholes and constitutional conflicts. In this case, Proposition 32 bans "unions" and "corporations" from using payroll-deducted funds for "political purposes." Government contractors also are banned from giving to candidates or their committees.

But what do those words mean? What about non-corporate business entities, such as limited liability companies? What about contributions from Indian tribes? What's a political purpose, anyway?

Ultimately, the courts will decide.

Less dough for Dems. Public- and private-sector unions gave a combined $74.7 million in political donations to state campaigns in 2010, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics.

The money came from payroll deductions and went mostly to support Democrats and union causes.

[King_Corey]

I miss the old California, the land of promise and gold. Where people went for opportunity. When Reagan was Governor.

[EggsAckley]

I miss it too.

I don’t like this century very much.

[The KG9 Kid]

I sure don't miss it.

Left years ago and have been back exactly twice.

[King_Corey]

I also miss Military bases in San Francisco and San Diego that were awesome, I loved Big Bear, and heading out to Calico in the desert. Used to be the best place for someone to go and to get a job and enjoy being out and about. Pretty girls, great rock bands, great weather...

Now illegals and their trash and liberals and their stupidity have ruined much. Hippies smell.

[pogo101]

Prop 32 just might eke it out. (At the polls. There are plenty of liberal judges who’d set it aside even then, of course.)

Unlike most measures, the left is split on 32:

the power goons who want unions for the unions’ sake oppose it. That’s most of the left, of course ...

BUT the reform-minded left — the sort who produced Waiting For Superman, who know that union inflexibility is a big part of the state’s problem — are supporting 32.

[Menehune56]

Hard to believe California was once called the Golden State. of course that was back when it occasionally voted Republican.

[BBell]

Pete Wilson was the last decent Governor Ca. had. He tried to stop the train wreck with prop 187, which was passed by the citizens of Ca., but a judge said it was unconstitutional. It’s been downhill since then. I bet a lot of the people who voted for 187 have left the State.

[daler]

What happens?

Like everything else the libs don't like, they quickly find a judge to declare it "unconstitutional."

[ansel12]

In California the voters have lost the vote, have lost democracy, have lost any role in government.

We go through the steps, we vote in laws, we change laws, we remove laws, and it is all meaningless, because a democrat in a robe simply watches us go through what amounts to mock democracy and then steps in when it is over and says, nope, not on my watch.

[Azeem]

I don’t miss it at all. The crowds were always too much and the good life was never there (at least since the 70s when I was born). Since moving Indiana, I see how someone can have a high standard of living and not be surrounded by 3rd world scum.

[aquila48]

Propositions in California (and most other states) have become a joke, especially if they are right leaning.

It doesn’t matter what the voters say - it’s what one or two liberal judges say.

The voters have actually passed some rather conservative laws (no benefits for illegals, no same sex marriage, etc) only to be aborted by a few judges.

Just like at the federal government, the elites have become the rulers.

[aquila48]

“I miss the old California, the land of promise and gold. Where people went for opportunity. When Reagan was Governor.”

Or when Joe Alioto was mayor of SF...

It’s still an incredibly beautiful place. What variety! The pacific coastline, the huge redwoods, tallest mountain in the lower 48 (Whitney) next to the lowest point (death valley) in the US. Glaciered mountains, desert sand dunes. Agricultural land as productive as any on earth. Beautiful cities and quaint seaside villages, Lake Tahoe, teeming towns and uncrowded serenity (anyplace above Marin or east of the central valley).

And lastly but by all means not least (in fact, probably the most) - the weather. Along the coast it is simply unbeatable for year round living - never hot, never cold, never humid. And the microclimates - where else in the world can you simply drive a few miles and get to pick the temperature you like?