1 posted on
09/19/2012 2:52:48 PM PDT by
Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
These elite turds may be fine with another four years of Zero destroying the country and being “flexible” with our enemies.
I’m not
2 posted on
09/19/2012 2:56:48 PM PDT by
Viennacon
To: Kaslin
So, the GOPe shoved this liberals Republican down our throats, and now they are surprised he is who he is?
3 posted on
09/19/2012 3:02:12 PM PDT by
svcw
(If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
To: Kaslin
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Bill Kristol says Romney was "stupid and arrogant ..."
Rush ... that's right ... Myth (from the "Severely Conservative" Planet Kolob in the Constellation Cancer) Romney ...
is "indeed" STUPID and ARROGANT ...
Myth alienated his "political infantry" (Christain Tea Party members) at the 2012 GOP Tampa Convention ...
Myth alienated his "political infantry" (Christain Tea Party members) at the BLATANT Slanderous campaign against Sarah Palin (starting in 2008) ...
Myth alienated his "political infantry" (Christain Tea Party members) at the BLATANT Slanderous campaign against Newt Gingrich, Rick santorum, Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, and Herman Cain in the 2012 GOP primaries ...
Myth alienated his "political infantry" (Christain Tea Party members) when he successfully STOLE (for a few crucial weeks) the Iowa Caucus vote in 2012 ...
Myth Romney is a "Pathological Political Liar" (as I stated to NBC News during the 2012 GOP Convention) ...
Myth's thoughts, words, speeches, PROMISES are as worthless as trash ...
appropriately so, I might add, as Myth considers the rest of us "little conservative bitter-clingers" as Trailer Park Trash that he needs to kiss-up to in this election ...
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4 posted on
09/19/2012 3:04:40 PM PDT by
Patton@Bastogne
(Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
To: Kaslin
"Establishment Republicans" lose everytime they're listened to.
They wouldn't caren if they DO lose.
If they can't be in power,
they don't want US in power. It's just that simple.
It's WAR!
"Establishment Republicans" Want to Redefine the Term "Conservative"
"DO CONSERVATIVES WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?"
DO
CONSERVATIVES "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?
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Palin was my first choice, but she dropped out.
Bachmann became my first choice,and she dropped out.
Cain was my second choice, but he dropped out.
Now ... Newt was my second choice, but he challenged Rush.
So now ... Rick Santorum, who use to be my third choice, is now my first choice.
But Romney, ... well at least he's not as bad as McCain was.
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Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled
The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.
Thus far, the field of GOP presidential contenders, actual and potential, isnt looking too terribly promising.
This, though, isnt meant to suggest that any of the candidates, all things being equal, lack what it takes to insure
that Barack Obama never sees the light of a second term; nor is it the case that I find none of the candidates appealing.
Rather, I simply mean that at this juncture, the party faithful is far from unanimously energized over any of them.
It is true that it was the rapidity and aggressiveness with which President Obama proceeded to impose his perilous designs upon the country
that proved to be the final spark to ignite the Tea Party movement.
But the chain of events that lead to its emergence began long before Obama was elected.
That is, it was actually the disenchantment with the Republican Party under our compassionate conservative president, George W. Bush,
which overcame legions of conservatives that was the initial inspiration that gave rise to the Tea Party.
It is this frustration with the GOPs betrayal of the values that it affirms that accounts for why the overwhelming majority
of those who associate with or otherwise sympathize with the Tea Party movement
refuse to explicitly or formally identify with the Republican Party.
And it is this frustration that informs the Tea Partiers threat to create a third party
in the event that the GOP continues business as usual.
If and when those conservatives and libertarians who compose the bulk of the Tea Party, decided that the Republican establishment
has yet to learn the lessons of 06 and 08, choose to follow through with their promise,
they will invariably be met by Republicans with two distinct but interrelated objections.
First, they will be told that they are utopian, purists foolishly holding out for an ideal candidate.
Second, because virtually all members of the Tea Party would have otherwise voted Republican if not for this new third party, they will be castigated for essentially giving elections away to Democrats.
Both of these criticisms are, at best, misplaced; at worst, they are just disingenuous.
At any rate, they are easily answerable.
Lets begin with the argument against purism. To this line, two replies are in the coming.
No one, as far as I have ever been able to determine, refuses to vote for anyone who isnt an ideal candidate.
Ideal candidates, by definition, dont exist.
This, after all, is what makes them ideal.
This counter-objection alone suffices to expose the argument of the Anti-Purist as so much counterfeit.
But there is another consideration that militates decisively against it.
A Tea Partier who refrains from voting for a Republican candidate who shares few if any of his beliefs
can no more be accused of holding out for an ideal candidate
than can someone who refuses to marry a person with whom he has little to anything in common
be accused of holding out for an ideal spouse.
In other words, the object of the argument against purism is the most glaring of straw men:I will not vote for a thoroughly flawed candidate is one thing;
I will only vote for a perfect candidate is something else entirely.
As for the second objection against the Tea Partiers rejection of those Republican candidates who eschew his values and convictions,
it can be dispensed with just as effortlessly as the first.
Every election seasonand at no time more so than this past seasonRepublicans pledge to reform Washington, trim down the federal government, and so forth.
Once, however, they get elected and they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail,
those who placed them in office are treated to one lecture after the other on the need for compromise and patience.
Well, when the Tea Partiers impatience with establishment Republican candidates intimates a Democratic victory,
he can use this same line of reasoning against his Republican critics.
My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none, he can insist.
But in order to advance in the long run my conservative or Constitutionalist values, it may be necessary to compromise some in the short term.
For example,
as Glenn Beck once correctly noted in an interview with Katie Couric,
had John McCain been elected in 2008, it is not at all improbable that, in the final analysis,
the country would have been worse off than it is under a President Obama.
McCain would have furthered the countrys leftward drift,
but because this movement would have been slower,
and because McCain is a Republican, it is not likely that the apparent awakening that occurred under Obama would have occurred under McCain.
It may be worth it, the Tea Partier can tell Republicans, for the GOP to lose some elections if it means that conservativesand the countrywill ultimately win.
If he didnt know it before, the Tea Partier now knows that accepting short-term loss in exchange for long-term gain is the essence of compromise, the essence of politics.
Ironically, he can thank the Republican for impressing this so indelibly upon him.
I'm fresh out of
"patience", and I'm not in the mood for
"compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the
RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.
The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!
6 posted on
09/19/2012 3:07:13 PM PDT by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die!)
To: Kaslin
If Bill Kristol says something or someone is “arrogant”, he should know. He is the expert poster child for arrogance.
7 posted on
09/19/2012 3:07:54 PM PDT by
Theodore R.
( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
To: Kaslin
Kristol can kiss my grits. I could care less about anything he has to say.
9 posted on
09/19/2012 3:11:16 PM PDT by
libbylu
To: Kaslin
I thought since I heard this that it will help Mitt. More people need to know how few people in this country are paying income taxes. That’s the real “fair share” issue.
To: Kaslin
Gee being so great, why doesn’t Bill Kristol run for president?
F him, why should anyone have respect for a “republican” who disses their own candidate toward the end of a tight race?
11 posted on
09/19/2012 3:15:38 PM PDT by
Andrei Bulba
(No Obama, no way!)
To: Kaslin
Republicans, meet the Whigs.
15 posted on
09/19/2012 3:25:03 PM PDT by
LaybackLenny
(Principles aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. I'm voting Romney. God help me.)
To: Kaslin
When I saw Kristol on Fox in the primary, he was not supporting Romney. So he didn’t flip-flop. He was one of the few I saw who did not like any of the primary candidates. If I recall correctly he was pulling for Chris Christie or Jeb Bush to enter the race. So, yeah, Kristol’s squishy on conservatism, but I think he’s been intellectually honest about where he stands.
19 posted on
09/19/2012 3:38:09 PM PDT by
JediJones
(KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
To: Kaslin
The hand-wringers don’t like the truth-telling. When Mitt wins, he can do what he wants without their say-so.
To: Kaslin
I guess I can take a layer of tinfoil off and say what I’ve said before. The GOPe didn’t want McCain to win and they don’t want Romney to win.
22 posted on
09/19/2012 3:50:31 PM PDT by
TigersEye
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To: Kaslin
Many of these same elites supported and voted for Mr. Obama in 2008. Am I the only one who remembers this? Peggy Noonan, Christopher Buckley, Kathleen Parker, Colin Powell, etc., etc... They said Sarah Palin was too dumb, a Christer, too conservative, blah, blah, blah or that having a black president would heal all the wounds, yada, yada, yada or that fresh, bold ideas were needed, humina, humina, humina...
23 posted on
09/19/2012 3:53:12 PM PDT by
2ndDivisionVet
(You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
To: Kaslin
If Mitt loses, I’m open to helping build a third party
To: Kaslin
I despised Bill Kristol long before this. He’s the textbook example of a beltway elite RINO.
To: Kaslin
So, the Romniacs are revolting against their leader? These would be the guys who sold Romney to us because Gingrich/Santorum/Palin were too right wing. Now Romney is too right wing?
Its hard to take these guys seriously. In fact, I don’t. I wouldn’t even know what they said if I didn’t read it on FR.
32 posted on
09/19/2012 4:17:24 PM PDT by
marron
To: Kaslin
Norah O'Donnell: “Now you see a number of Republicans, former Republicans criticizing Mitt Romney for his comment. Is this a turning point in the campaign?”
So far all these “turning points” have been in the minds of the faux journalists inhabiting the Washington media circle jerk. NBC can now adjust its poll to show an Obama surge.
35 posted on
09/19/2012 4:33:07 PM PDT by
Brad from Tennessee
(A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
To: Kaslin
The Republican Party elites sabotage Republicans and help Democrats win. The elites demand certain candidates who will “appeal to independents” and “not be polarizing”. They spend the primary season attacking conservatives and everyone except their candidate. Then as soon as the moderate candidate wins the nomination they immediately join with the Democrats and attack the candidate to the MSM. They also attack the Tea Party and everyone one in the Republican Party who actually stands for something. They often back the Democrat candidate against the conservative.
The Republican elite chose Romney. They made it clear that Romney's conservative speeches were just for the idiot right wingers and that like an etch-a-sketch all conservative positions would soon be erased.
Now the Republican establishment is praising Obama and the Democrats and attacking Romney. The attacks are usually anonymous leaks to the MSM.
Sarah Palin must be amused by the irony. The Republican elites and the Romney people demanded that she not be welcome in the Republican Party and not allowed to speak at the convention. The Democrats and the MSM attacked her and the Republican elites threw her under the bus with the hope that it would appease the MSM.
Romney will now be subject to the same anonymous leaks and attacks the Sarah Palin was. The MSM will say that the election is lost and the Republican elites will agree.
Charlie Christ and the moderates the Republicans gave millions of dollars to in 2010 are backing Obama now. Ron Paul is working for Obama. Todd Akin and other conservatives are being abandoned by the Republican Party.
To: Kaslin
Open letter to Kristol... Billy. “Arrogant and stupid”? I would say you are apparently describing yourself. However, we know you are not stupid. So, I will assume your comments are deliberate fodder you are providing to the opposition to hurt Romney. I assume you intend for Obama to win. Why hide it. You are a Democrat now, regardless of your past. Indeed, you are a little little man.
To: Kaslin
Open letter to Kristol... Billy. “Arrogant and stupid”? I would say you are apparently describing yourself. However, we know you are not stupid. So, I will assume your comments are deliberate fodder you are providing to the opposition to hurt Romney. I assume you intend for Obama to win. Why hide it. You are a Democrat now, regardless of your past. Indeed, you are a little little man.
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