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To: Dave Mellon
Dave Mellon-

First, I tend to agree w/your assumption that some of the “local Muslims” were and are sympathetic to Stevens and tried to do what they could to return his body to the authorities (Benghazi Medical Center); however, I think Stevens was dead by the time they found him and I doubt that they are the same group shown in the various images/videos of Stevens. (Stevens appears to be dead to me in the original 3 digital images that I saw ...note that his left forearm position, while he is being carried over the shoulder of a “rescuer,” is the same as in the morgue/hospital image where it is clear that Stevens is dead and the forearm/hand is in rigor mortis.)

As to the rescue vs torture/"dragged thru the streets" scenarios; I think the issue is being deliberately confused in order to cover up the fact that Stevens was tortured before he was murdered. There were early comments from a French diplomat indicating this was the case. Also there are the following two paragraphs from a Reuters article published on 12 Sep 2012 by a gardner named Ali Khamis and a young man named Hamam who both claimed to be present at the time the terrorists entered the consulate grounds after the attack:

“Ali Khamis, a gardener, said he was in his room at the consulate when the attack happened. “They came into the compound, through all the gates. They were shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ and they were shooting in the air when they came in,” he said.”

“Hamam, the young protester, said he had seen an American “totally covered in soot and black” lying apparently dead in the compound. Some people he said were chanting, “Allahu akbar (God is great), We are victorious over the infidels.”

Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-libya-ambassador-assault-idUSBRE88C02Q20120913?feedType=RSS&feedName=wtMostRead&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FMostRead+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Most+Read+Articles%29

Note that this was on 12 September, well before the videos came out w/what I believe are doctored audio based on the fact that the participants behavior and shouts match the description the two witnesses gave in the above paragraph ...well BEFORE anyone saw any of the video footage.

Sorry you've been catching so much flak. Basically, we're all just trying to figure out what really happened to Stevens and everyone is infuriated by the fact that the Obama administration/DoS are to blame and have clearly been lying and stonewalling about all of this.

Of course, whether or not Stevens was tortured and his body paraded through the streets of Benghazi, has no impact upon the obvious fact that this was a well planned terrorist attack and the security arrangements were totally inadequate.

Regards,

-Geoff

20 posted on 09/20/2012 1:41:49 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Thank you for the Reuters article. I had not seen it until now. It is consistent with the State Department information given to reporters on September 12th. I did mention the Abeena30 memorial video here: صور السفير الأمريكي كريس ستيفنز في ليبيا. There are other Libyan memorial videos and a lot more photos as well. I agree with you on most of your points. I will be posting a new video featuring an interview with the videographer and doctor who tried to revive Ambassador Stevens as well as the original State Department storyline. All I ask is that you keep an open mind.
21 posted on 09/20/2012 3:33:23 PM PDT by Dave Mellon
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