[freepertoo]

People on Social Security are not takers — they had money taken from them, without their consent all their working lives. The government is the taker.

[Kansas58]

actually, those on SS and Medicare get back every penny they paid in -— in a few very short years.

I understand your point, in that Medicare and Social Security are mandated programs, but don't kid yourself.

Medicare and Social Security are both ponzi schemes.

There are no “trust funds” -— the money has been spent. It is impossible for the money not to be spent. No entity can “invest” in its own paper. Current contributions from current workers pay 100% of current benefits, well almost, the General Fund now picks up the difference.

[upchuck]

People on Social Security are not takers — they had money taken from them, without their consent all their working lives. The government is the taker.

Megga BUMP!

I get so pissed when Soc Sec is lumped in with all the pure handouts and referred to as an "entitlement."