Re: your post #13, Lloyd Marcus’ quote:
The things he describes they struggle with are no different that what any other person who has been touched by Christ struggles with; they are things that must be denied, for Christ told His disciples (followers) AND those who were not followers, but listening and watching, that in order to follow Him they must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow Him. Everything we love more than Him must be relinquished for him, in order to follow Him.
The message was rejected by those who did not want to count the cost, but to those who were given to Him, who believed in Him and the truth that He spoke, it set them free, and it sets us free today.
Thank you for going to the link and bringing that message back to this thread.