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Pentagon Denies Reports of No Live Ammo for Marines
The Washington Free Beacon ^
| September 13, 2012 4:40 pm
| Adam Kredo
Posted on 09/13/2012 4:15:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Talisker
Good job on parsing the Obama/Panetta weasel words.
To: PapaBear3625
Just as a side note...
Conservatives and most of the public have always had a trust of the military. I find it odd that we now see this BS and OBAMA’S generals out there doing everything to undermine that trust.
Gee...I wonder why.
To: Texas Fossil
This has been a (treasonous) top down policy for some time. That the ambassador made a unilateral decision on this is pure crapolla.
Our personnel in Bosnia were not allowed to carry loaded guns. They were told they could load their guns *after* they were fired upon. Fact. I got this from an Air Force non com who served 2 tours there.
It is sickening in how many places around the world the military is not allowed to be armed.
And for the record, the ROE haven’t been much better under Republican presidents for decades. The Dems just carry it to even more disgusting extremes.
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posted on
09/13/2012 4:47:33 PM PDT
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
To: Texas Fossil
My thought exactly. Here are the weasel words: “....not permitted by the State Department....”
The Marine blogs that broke this story DID NOT say that the STATE DEPARTMENT did not allow live ammo. They said that the bee-itch in charge of the embassy forbade it.
For all we know, Washington, DC knew nothing about the rules that were in effect over there on station......although it is no stretch whatever for me to believe that Shrillery would have denied the Marines live ammo, too.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:04:00 PM PDT
by
Tucker39
( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
To: eeevil conservative
Maybe so, but after they say that, I have a question:
“Then why aren’t there stacks of dead ragheads heaped up around those embassys and consulates?!”
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:07:37 PM PDT
by
Tucker39
( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
To: Texas Fossil
sadly, our military brass and their defense dept cohorts are not believable....they go along to get along, and then they get their big fat pensions.....
another reason the pension system needs to be changed...too much of an excuse to be a good little dobbie and not rock the boat...
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:10:06 PM PDT
by
cherry
To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
How many ragheads can 2 Marines waste before they run out of ammo? And where are the stacks of dead ragheads that MUST be the result, IF the Marines were armed and authorized to fire at will?!
The either wer NOT ARMED, or they were FORBIDDEN to actually FIRE their weapons. Any other version is a lie!
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:14:01 PM PDT
by
Tucker39
( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Hold on there, cowboy, if my Marines get their regular choices of weapons two is enough to stand off a whole passel of butt draggers. If I have a MK-19 for instance and my buddy has a SAW we OWN the neighborhood in question. It would be a nice touch if we could have an ammo humper but we’ll go with what’s available assuming we had the slightest warning.-————————Semper Fi
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:14:07 PM PDT
by
cherokee1
(skip the names---just kick the buttz)
To: Texas Fossil
When this administration, the SOS and the POTUS tells one lie, we can’t believe anything any of them say.
To: Texas Fossil
When they cut the $800B from the Pentagon, I sure hope they cut the salaries of the left wing weenies who work there.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:20:45 PM PDT
by
CincyRichieRich
(Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
To: Tucker39
The Marine blogs that broke this story DID NOT say that the STATE DEPARTMENT did not allow live ammo. They said that the bee-itch in charge of the embassy forbade it.
That is similar to what I have read in other related threads. It was the female ambassador who disallowed the Marine guards to carry loaded weapons.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:20:50 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Texas Fossil; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK
Taking ammo away from our military and embassy guards has been SOP’s under LBJ, Carter, Clintoon and now Obozo.
These left wing rectums have never cared about our military, our military men and women on the point, are put in danger everyday with left wing bs.
The left wing ROE’s have killed our men and women in Iraq and other hell holes since Obozo became our president.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:24:45 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
To: TomGuy
It was the female ambassador who disallowed the Marine guards to carry loaded weapons. Of course, those big ol' guns might so off and hurt someone.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:26:19 PM PDT
by
AmusedBystander
(The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
To: Talisker
restrictions = applies to weapons, not ammo weapons = does not include ammo Exactly! The weapon is pretty useless if the only rounds available are of the beanbag variety.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:28:25 PM PDT
by
lovesdogs
(Nevermind what I post...I have clothespins handy and will vote for Mitt.)
To: Tucker39
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:29:09 PM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
To: Grampa Dave
Taking ammo away from our military and embassy guards has been SOPs under LBJ, Carter, Clintoon and now Obozo.
US Military guarding at Abu Graib were issued rubber bullets. That was under Bush2. That is the same Bush 2 who had National Guards on the Border disarmed and Border Patrol issued rubber bullets.
If Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano says for Border Guards to run and hide if attacked, why would it be a surprise to find out similar orders be giving to overseas State Department personnel, as well?
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:30:07 PM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Locomotive Breath
where are the dead Libyans?No reported dead Libyans. So that is all the proof I need. As far as I have read they have not identified the other 2 dead Americans. If they are Marines, the Obozo's POLs will have some explaining to do.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:37:49 PM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
To: Texas Fossil
Yup, the old semantics trick.
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posted on
09/13/2012 5:55:11 PM PDT
by
BerryDingle
(I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
To: Locomotive Breath
Maybe they saw “Rules of Engagement”. I’m a monkey’s uncle if dear leader isn’t the real-life Bill Sokal.
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posted on
09/13/2012 6:08:49 PM PDT
by
RWB Patriot
("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
To: Texas Fossil
You cannot believe anything that comes out of the federal government.
It is always nothing but self serving lies, half truths or Bill Clinton style parsing.
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posted on
09/13/2012 6:30:54 PM PDT
by
Iron Munro
("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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