[mkjessup]

Obama is directly responsible for the regime change in Libya, whereas Carter just stood by while things happened in Tehran. So we disagree.

We'll have to disagree then FRiend, however Carter did not just 'stand by' as the Shah's government fell apart, he cut off U.S. aid, did everything possible to isolate Iran as the terrorists consolidated their control, and the historical record establishes that when Carter took office in January '77, Iran was a strong and reliable U.S. ally, a force for peace in that region, had cordial, even friendly relations with Israel (and a major trading partner with Israel), and that when Carter left office, Iran had been transformed into a terrorist state, a threat to the region, and as we can see now, an existential threat to Israel.

Believe me, Carter knew exactly what he was doing, and he did it behind the fig leaf of 'human rights', and we're seeing the rotten fruit of his actions today.

[aposiopetic]

Carter and Khomeini had no history together like Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood, where Obama went to Egypt and basically asked publicly for change. There was also no Huma as Cyrus Vance's most senior aide.

Again, we disagree. I think Obama is worse.

[Irish Eyes]

We'll have to disagree then FRiend, however Carter did not just 'stand by' as the Shah's government fell apart, he cut off U.S. aid, did everything possible to isolate Iran as the terrorists consolidated their control, and the historical record establishes that when Carter took office in January '77, Iran was a strong and reliable U.S. ally, a force for peace in that region, had cordial, even friendly relations with Israel (and a major trading partner with Israel), and that when Carter left office, Iran had been transformed into a terrorist state, a threat to the region, and as we can see now, an existential threat to Israel.

Believe me, Carter knew exactly what he was doing, and he did it behind the fig leaf of 'human rights', and we're seeing the rotten fruit of his actions today.

Thank you for setting the record straight.

Carter did much more also to displace the Shah. Carter was a disaster.