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To: Bobloblaw2012; TheOldLady; Tennessee Nana; Liz; SaraJohnson; Marcella; Norm Lenhart
So which is it? Dome people say a ham sandwich can beat Obama. You say Romney’s case is limp.

"It" is precisely as I stated, above: Mittens' campaign is (demonstrably) flagging, and -- barring any sudden, miraculous change(s) in the status quo 'twixt today and Election Day -- will most likely result in failure, and four more years of The Won.

Whatever your argument with those advancing the ham sandwich postulate, you need to take it up with those actually bruiting same. (The "dome people" you mentioned, whoever the heck those are supposed to be.) I'm only responsible for my own arguments, thank you.

If a case needs to be made, then that means the default is reelect Obama.

Pardon my bluntness... but: is this your very first election, as an active participant? ;) Yes, indeed: a convincing case always, ALWAYS needs to be made -- forcibly and repeatedly -- by any candidate attempting to dethrone a sitting incumbent. That's how an election works; that's what an election is, for pity's sake: two opposing sides and/or philosophies of governance, each attempting to c-o-n-v-i-n-c-e the electorate that they deserve office, at the expense of the other. Your (apparent) startlement at this self-evident, baseline truth leaves me, quite literally nonplussed.

If Romney loses there is going to have to be a discussion on just how center right the american voter really is.

Were Mittens genuinely conservative, in any meaningful or appreciable way... then, sure, absolutely. As facts on the ground (i.e., his highly public record of unabashedly liberal governance, while in the only political office he has ever held to date) incontrovertibly stand, however: not so much, no.

Infinitely more likely: what will need to be hashed out will be why the Republican party machinery, as presently constituted, has mulishly (and disastrously) insisted upon following the same inept and unworkable campaign strategy against the highly beatable (given the right opponent) Obama -- not just once, mind you, but a SECOND time as well:

1.) Ensure most aggressively leftward-leaning candidate available is ultimately nominated, by means of open primaries ("Liberals and 'Moderates' Welcome!") in virtually all the delegate-rich states.

2.) Further depress crucial conservative voting base by having said candidate run just scant micro-millimeters to the political right of the 'Rat candidate, in a repeatedly (and predictably) doomed attempt to appeal to liberal voters. (Said delusional attempts never, ever pan out; liberals already have their own 'Rat-supplied candidate: ready, willing and easily capable of out-libbing the other guy, after all. One cannot beat a voice, ultimately, with nothing but a weak echo of same.)

3.) In desperation, as base's lack of enthusiasm becomes increasingly and undeniably palpable, throw them a "sop" in the form of a sacrificial conservative in the VP slot -- Palin last time out, Ryan this year. (This handily serves a double purpose. as it gives the Karl Rove/National Review GOP-e faction somebody to blame, after the fact, for their anointed CINO du jour's inevitable electoral thumping in the general. I don't envy poor Ryan the shabby treatment he'll doubtless be receiving at the hands of supposed friends and political compatriots, just a few short months hence.)

That's the conversation that'll need to be had... unless, of course, you genuinely want to see Jeb Bush and/or Chris Christie go down in flames versus Dame Hillary, come 2016.

Here endeth the lesson.

116 posted on 09/11/2012 4:18:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Romney is an “establishment” candidate——conservatives are loathe to give the Repub/Estab any leeway b/c the Estab hates conservatives.....plus conservatives get ill when Karl Rove’s name surfaces.

That said-—to date, there have been odd flashes of brilliance in Romney’s campaign that the idiot McC did not have.

Also keep in mind, all Romney needs is a single one-liner-—and he’ll win handily.

Remember Mondale’s “Where’s The Beef” against Gary whatshissname in the primary ——and Reagan’s unforgettable debate retort to Mondale WRT RR’s age-—”I will not exploit for political purposes my opponent’s youth and inexperience.”

Besides, conservatives hate Ohaha more than they hate Romney, Rove and the Repub/Estab.


117 posted on 09/11/2012 4:58:16 AM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars." Dom Perignon)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I support Scott Walker in 2016 If he runs. I wouldn’t support Jeb Bush. I hope he doesn’t run. I’ve asked on other posts who exactly is the GOPe so we can purge them. No point complaining about the GOPe if we do t know who they are.


118 posted on 09/11/2012 5:34:21 AM PDT by Bobloblaw2012
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Very well said, and you’ve steamrollered over the troll. He was barely able to complete a sentence in a weak, non-rebuttal.


125 posted on 09/12/2012 8:39:57 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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