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Romney: I'll Keep Parts of Obamacare
www.NewsMax/© 2012 Thomson/Reuters. All rights reserved. ^ | Sunday, 09 Sep 2012 03:09 PM

Posted on 09/09/2012 7:28:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Edited on 09/09/2012 7:33:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who has called for scrapping President Barack Obama's 2010 U.S. healthcare law, said in remarks aired on Sunday that he likes key parts of "Obamacare" despite his party's loathing of it and wants to retain them.


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4moreyears; abr; purists; reeducationcamps; romney; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: Dave W
Lying about Mitt's switch back to pro-abortion doesn't change his position, which is pro-abortion.

You seem unable to be able to explain why 45 years after we learned what the left does with "health", that Mitt Romney embraces it as his pro-abortion stance and admits that he does not support the pro-life Republican party platform.

Every election is about abortion.

PELLEY: Well, the platform as written at this convention for the Republicans does not allow for exceptions on abortion with regard to the health of the mother or rape or incest. Is that where you are?

ROMNEY: No. My position has been clear throughout this campaign. I’m in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother.

201 posted on 09/10/2012 5:34:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
You are wrong. Most elections are not about abortions and YOU are lying about Romney's position.

Regardless, Romney's position on abortion has no effect on who gets an abortion anyway since it is legal and there is nothing he can do about and nothing you can do about it.

What are you doing about abortion? Since elections are meaningless as to abortion law, what are you doing about it other than voting?

Romney does not support the party platform? What's new about that? I don't think anyone older than 12 thinks the platform means anything. The president and other politicians always support the positions they want to regardless of the platform. This has always occurred. The difference is that in the past, the presidential nominee used to pretend he agreed with the platform and in the last 20 years that has changed where the presidential nominee of both parties now come right out and say those things they agree with and those issues they don't agree with. Nobody blinks an eye since it doesn't really matter.

No one votes for the platform; voters vote for a person - a candidate. Personally, conventions at this point are meaningless. I think in the future, conventions will disappear because of the amount of money it costs and the nominee will be elected remotely by delegates or by mail, etc. There will still be nominating speeches, perhaps in a studio broadcast nationwide or with some state capitol as a backdrop.

I realize you are a one issue voter and there is nothing wrong with that, but don't make the mistake of making your issue over all other issues, because it isn't - at least not this time.

I do believe that abortion is one of the great issues of our time, but I am also a realist, that at the moment, no president can do anything about the issue.

I do know this: if Obama gets reelected, abortions will not be reduced. Obama is, after all, on record of supporting infanticide.

If Romney wins, there is a better possibility, he will appoint judges kinder to your position.

202 posted on 09/10/2012 7:34:56 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

This isn’t lying, it is called “quoting”.

PELLEY: Well, the platform as written at this convention for the Republicans does not allow for exceptions on abortion with regard to the health of the mother or rape or incest. Is that where you are?

ROMNEY: “No. My position has been clear throughout this campaign. I’m in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother.”

As a romneybot, you cannot honestly pretend that this bothers you, or surprises you, Romney’s supporters have known that this was part of the bargain they were making, all along.


203 posted on 09/10/2012 7:51:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
No, you are a liar. I told you that Romney said he misspoke and that he does not favor abortion for the health of the mother. He said he made a mistake.

You are so petty and bitter that your candidate did not win that you are being childish to the extreme by not acknowledging that Romney took back his statement.

No wonder some people think Republicans are extreme. I don't really care you don't like Romney.

You are further proof that one issue voters are a danger to the republic. Obsessed and self centered, you are clueless of the damage you are administering to the Republic.

This does not change the fact that Reagan is responsible for more abortions than Romney will ever be.

Neither you nor Romney can do anything about abortion. You have refused to tell me what are doing about abortion other than merely childish whining and lying.

204 posted on 09/10/2012 8:42:35 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
I told you that Romney said he misspoke and that he does not favor abortion for the health of the mother. He said he made a mistake.

Show me the quote of Romney saying that.

205 posted on 09/10/2012 9:02:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the Susan B. Anthony List, told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer this week that she had spoken with a campaign official, who confirmed the former governor did not favor such an expansive exception.

“If that were his position, he would never have received our endorsement, that’s for sure,” Dannenfelser said. “I have heard clarification from his spokesperson, restating what his position really is, which is rape, incest, life of the mother. That is his position. Those are his exceptions.”


206 posted on 09/10/2012 9:16:23 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: 1035rep; Dave W

I know, I have looked for more than a week for a quote from Romney formally saying what Dave W lied about, I couldn’t find it either.

So far nothing is strong enough to overcome the stone cold facts of that quoted, formal interview response on the question, as quoted in post 203.


207 posted on 09/10/2012 9:22:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
What of it? I think from your silence, it is obvious that you acknowledge that no president can do anything about abortions. You agree that Reagan is responsible for more abortions than Romney and that you are a one issue voter.

I have acknowledged that it is OK to be a one issue voter, and that Romney would be better than Obama in regards to abortion.

By the way, Romney did take back his statement and said he misspoke. You can do your own research....try National Review.

208 posted on 09/10/2012 9:39:51 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
I told you that Romney said he misspoke and that he does not favor abortion for the health of the mother. He said he made a mistake.

Show me the quote of Romney saying that.

Until then, I have the real quote in post 203, a quote to be expected from a man who tells us that he became pro-abortion in 1963, and of his mother's courage in running as a pro-abortion candidate in 1970.

209 posted on 09/10/2012 10:26:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
Reagan is responsible for more abortions than Romney is.

You are capable of finding Romney's backstepping. I have nothing to prove to liars.

Why don't you spend your time criticizing Democrats since they are the ones who are really responsible for abortion.

Are you a troll? Perhaps you belong to DU and are a poser? Akin, is that you?

210 posted on 09/10/2012 10:41:59 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

LoL, can’t find your fake quote can you, also show me the figures to support your claim about Reagan, you have made it over, and over, and over, but you haven’t shown the data.


211 posted on 09/10/2012 10:50:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
Reagan signed the most liberal abortion law in the country in California. The jerk I'm responding to knows I don't know the number of abortions performed, but because Reagan did not veto the bill, untold number of abortions were performed.

While the jerk is demonizing Romney, Romney committed no act in office that made abortions easier to get in Massachusetts.

Said jerk knows that whoever is elected to the presidency can do nothing to make abortion illegal.

212 posted on 09/10/2012 11:34:46 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

You make a lot of personal attacks, insults, name calling, and do a lot of making up of stuff, and you really, really, don’t like Reagan.

You just can’t support the things you claim.


213 posted on 09/10/2012 11:53:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: Chunga

Sounds like you have an axe to grind with Newsmax for some strange reason. Newsmax runs columns by Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and other conservatives, and you are sounding like Newsmax is liberal trash like the New York Times. Tell me who your allegiance is to? Are you a closet liberal? You’re sure coming across as one by trashing a known conservative media outlet such as Newsmax. Who do you represent and why are you here? I need answers and I need them now.


214 posted on 09/11/2012 9:49:16 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: ansel12
I do like Reagan immensely. The reason why I include the abortion facts about Reagan is that you delight in criticizing Romney about his support for abortion for rape and incest. You can criticize Romney all you want, but you can't change the fact that Reagan's signature on the law promoted abortion and caused abortions, while Romney has not done anything similar.

It shows your criticism is selective and subjective and I'm forcing you to be objective about it.

Why is your focus not on getting Obama out of office? That would do more to stop abortions than criticizing Romney.

You can't because your obsessing on one issue. Why?

215 posted on 09/11/2012 10:10:51 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

See post 213, and you just can’t change the fact that Mitt Romney is pro-abortion, and has been all of his life.


216 posted on 09/11/2012 10:24:26 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
You just keep ignoring the questions I ask of you. It is either Obama or Romney. Who do you stand by and why are you obsessed with abortion?
217 posted on 09/11/2012 10:28:36 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

This is the subject, this is my first post to you, and I have been proven right of course. Your made up quotes and facts that you cannot show, is just the usual internet troll stuff, of wasting time with post, after post, after post, of refusing to admit that the quotes and data don’t exist.

To: Dave W
Reagan was pro-life and made a bad rookie decision in 1967, falling for something that many of us were naive enough to believe back then,that the “health of the mother” meant life and death.

Two weeks ago Mitt Romney, who has been pro-abortion since 1963, and then campaigned as having switched to pro-life to run for the GOP nomination, announced that he was reverting back to his pro-abortion position.
176 posted on Mon Sep 10 2012 00:04:14 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by ansel12


218 posted on 09/11/2012 10:40:28 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: Blue Highway
Sounds like you have an axe to grind with Newsmax for some strange reason.

Not to anyone with an ounce of sense.

Newsmax is a historically inaccurate, frequently undersourced, irresponsible cyberrag that often doesn't even run the byline of the persons who write their articles, which is the case here. This article is inaccurate, Romney never said what the headline quotes him as saying, and no one has taken responsibility for writing this trash.

It gives conservative journalism a bad name. It always has.

219 posted on 09/11/2012 4:41:43 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: SoConPubbie

As for myself, I’d repeal it all — except for the provision that says the mandate may not be considered a tax.

This is the kind of liberal Establishment RINOism that loses elections.

Remember, during the primaries, Romney supporter Pam Bondi (who as Florida AG led the lawsuit against the unconstitutional Obamacare bill) said that they intended to repeal Obamacare and help establish Romneycare in every state.

Romneycare essentially IS Obamacare.


220 posted on 09/11/2012 8:06:36 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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