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Posted on 09/09/2012 9:45:49 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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Last week, researchers from Stanford University published the results of the most comprehensive study to date on organic and conventional foods. Their conclusion? Organic foods have no more vitamins and nutrients than traditionally grown produce. I can’t say I’m surprised. Chicken is chicken, with the same nutritional content, whether it is organic, free range or mass-produced. But now scientists have confirmed it, perhaps we can begin to have a proper conversation about the food we put on our table.
The Stanford University team reviewed more than 200 studies which compared either the health of those who ate organic and conventional foods, or, more commonly, nutrient and contaminant levels in the foods themselves.
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Friends have working farm for decades, then decided to go the popular Organic route; became so costly wth Govt fees, ongoing inspections etc, they removed "costly label", but sell same product, same local farmers markets, same success, cut out the middle-man aka The Govt..
One story they told, a California couple inquired what these "organic" cows ate in the winter as grass covered with snow...they chuckled and said "Hay" and now remains a story to be retold.
I love Marco, as a chef and as a man of integrity, there is no other cuts through the BS like he does.
Freepers would love him; he loves to hunt and he loves his guns.
In a way, he is the Ted Nugent of the food world.
“Organic” food is a shakedown racket by slick marketers and endorsed by government agencies looking to make a buck off of suckers. With the price of food skyrocketing, no one will pay the ridiculous prices for oranic products anyway.
Is there any study on the content of pesticide residues in organically grown produce vs. the alternatives? I am not really surprised about the lack of a significant difference between these foods in terms of nutrition, but I thought the biggest selling point with regard to organic food was the absence of pesticides and synthetic medication.
I always thought the claims of some sort of greatly superior nutrients were gilding the lily.
I think most people choose organic not because they think regular produce exceeds the government-established limits for pesticides, but because they don’t think those limits are adequate.
I suspect they are right. And no, we can’t afford to feed the unwashed billions organically.
But I really don’t think this study debunks much that’s been taken very seriously, and it hasn’t really explored that—the sense that government standards are inadequate—that has.
Oh, also. Standards by which chickens are raised could be increased without pricing chicken out of the market.
Oh, and yes, I often find organic foodie types to be insufferable.
And the Michelle Obama type of crusading that makes average taxpayers subsidize food stamps recipients and public school getting organic produce is IMO obscene.
How many tax dollars were wasted determining that a chicken was a chicken?
If you believe that, then you have not confronted the toxicity of the pest resistance chemicals that plants produce themselves. They're nasty, they've been proven resistant to mutation by natural selection, and they are produced in higher concentration when the plant is attacked.
I do buy local wherever I can, rarely step into a Food Chain store-had steak @ friends the other night-they made a great steak, I complimented then asked where it was from, they said Wal*Mart. My mind wandered to wonder where derived from..but it was tender, flavorful..but I still buy local..and because selling to locals is the biz target, not vacationers--then prices remain in reach..now Lobster on the other hand is VERY INEXPENSIVE $2-$3 range Locals are buying, boiling, shucking [soft shell no work] and freezing in zipbags.
Sort of related... Some lady at the grocery store was bitching about them not carrying “vegan butter”. I told her they did and it was called “margarine”. She said something about margarine having too much trans fat or something. I responded that I guess Vegan is just not that healthy then. And why in the hell would a vegan be interested in eating substitute meat like vegan bacon and vegan burgers anyway? It’s sort of like an ex-cannibal wanting something that tastes like human. ;-)
This article touchs on it, not in-depth though; http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/science-scope/organic-food-isnt-actually-any-better-for-you-and-its-way-more-expensive/13614?tag=search-river
We raise our own chickens. FUBO.
I’m not really sure what that has to do with the pesticides that have been demonstrated to be poisonous to people, for example.
Farmers who work with pesticides have a higher incidence of diseases that are correlated with such.
The question is what is the safe, cumulative exposure to different pesticides.
Three things:
1. “Contrary to what most people believe, “organic” does not automatically mean “pesticide-free” or “chemical-free”. In fact, under the laws of most states, organic farmers are allowed to use a wide variety of chemical sprays and powders on their crops.”
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html
2. Pesticides (including synthetic pesticides) degrade. The degradation can be caused by: ultra violet light (sunlight); chemical reactions in the soil; and, microorganisms in the soil.
3. Pesticides that are harmful to pests, aren’t necessarily harmful to humans.
Oh, and a fourth thing: without modern pesticides, most of us would already have died from starvation. (The fact that we’re alive instead is considered a bad thing, by many leftists and envirofascists.)
You could say the same things about (so called) “fair trade” labeling. A big shakedown racket.
But if it is not organic then it is missing its essential karmic aura...
Thanks 9YearLurker for reminding me of what should have been my point 4, in post 15, (call it 4a)
4a.Plants produce their own pesticides. These can be powerful and nasty. Actually, one of the main focuses of the research into genetically modified organisms is creating plants that better resist pests. On the flip side, GMOs are created to resist weed killing pesticides (like Roundup).
Wha?
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