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To: dsm69; Two Kids' Dad

On a related note...

The NOLA confiscations did not last long enough for word to get around. Insofar as it did, seems when it did the operation was shut down from the _inside_ via cops saying “NO!”

Insofar as confiscations did occur, NONE happened with a fight - they were handed over, or just taken from the weak. Those who made clear there WOULD be a fight were left alone. Famous examples are the videos of a little old lady being talked down then overcome to take her .38, vs. paid guards standing with AR15s and a calm “don’t try” look who were then left alone.


216 posted on 09/10/2012 1:45:30 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2; dsm69; Two Kids' Dad
The NOLA confiscations did not last long enough for word to get around.

It should also be noted that that occurred because of a near complete communications blackout. A blackout caused by a Cat 5 hurricane and subsequent tremendous flooding which, a) couldn't be duplicated by man and b) didn't alarm anyone (in the sense of being intentionally cut off) because it was caused by natural forces. People couldn't even walk to their neighbor's house to exchange info.

224 posted on 09/10/2012 2:32:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ctdonath2
On a related note...

The NOLA confiscations did not last long enough for word to get around. Insofar as it did, seems when it did the operation was shut down from the _inside_ via cops saying “NO!”

Insofar as confiscations did occur, NONE happened with a fight - they were handed over, or just taken from the weak. Those who made clear there WOULD be a fight were left alone. Famous examples are the videos of a little old lady being talked down then overcome to take her .38, vs. paid guards standing with AR15s and a calm “don’t try” look who were then left alone.

'ctdonath2', thanks for the background info on the NOLA/Katrina gun confiscations. Yes, I too remember that it didn't last all that long before it stopped cold and like you said, those that took part in the gun confiscation efforts mostly targeted easy or weak targets for confiscation (the ones that likely wouldn't put up a fight).

If my memory serves me right, most of those going door to door attempting to confiscate guns were out of state cop volunteers brought in to help augment local police in the post hurricane aftermath. I believe that it was outside cops on loan from California which spearheaded these confiscation efforts and like you said, they stopped when (a) the locals would not support them and (b) public and political pressure put on the local commanders to quit disarming law abiding folks trying to defend what was left of their homes/lives from looters and marauders.

I also remember the NRA and other Gun Rights groups took the authorities to court a little while after things settled down a bit and got a court order that stated the gun confiscations were illegal and required the authorities to make every effort to return all firearms that were illegally confiscated back to their rightfull owners or fully reimburse the owners for the full value of the illegally confiscated gun if they could not physically return the gun(s), which the authorities eventually fully complied with.

Also, Gun Rights groups, if I recall, may even had gone to court to try to stop the confiscations as they were happening in the immediate post-Katrina aftermath, but the authorities stopped the confiscations on their own before a judge could issue any injunctions.

227 posted on 09/10/2012 9:36:53 PM PDT by dsm69
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