U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms

"Karl Marx preached Free trade. You are a Marxist and don't even know it. "

Sounds like you want to keep the rest of the world in the sh*tpile while you live high on the hog.

The Kenyan must go.

Oh yeah the last step is interesting. Having reduced our ability to fight a war of attrition to zero, we are left with a conundrum. We go nuclear and destroy the ChiCom base and they will surely strike back.
By off shoring Free Traitors have eliminated the conventional option. Mushroom clouds on the horizon....

Well, my father said the same thing. He was stationed at Camp Casey in South Korea about 1955/56. I said to Mom during the Olympics when the Chi-Comm came on, "we will end up fighting those people someday." Even in 1950 with all the people they had then, there is the old adage where if you had a magic machine gun that never ran out of bullet nor wear out, starting out at the age of 16, you'd be an old man still firing away .... and they will still be coming.

I think for better or worse, we should have let McArthur do an atomic war dance on Red China and looking back, it was a mistake for Nixon to go there, even though I'm judging the politics of the 1972 world with 2012 eyes.

No matter what, we would have to use atomic weapons on them. If it happened now, I think we would survive much better off (assuming no other nations come to the party) than the Red Chinese would. I would be a curb-stomp where Red China would cease to exist as a country, but we'd take our lumps too. We might have to trade of cities like LA, Frisco, San Diego, Portland (OR), Seattle, etc., to take them out totally.

I'm generally libertarian on most things. I don't care who sleeps with who as long as both (or all) parties consent and are at or above the age of consent as well as assume any responsibility and accountability. Homosexual marriage, leave it to the States, ideally, government should stay out of that totally. Still when it comes to our national security and survival, that's where it generally ends.

Free trade is a great idea if all or most of the world generally expects the same things, the wages are similar, living conditions are similar and laws are similar, but when you compete against a place that has slave labor and we don't, it is like putting a Dodge Challenger against a go-kart in a road race.

I understand where the free traders are coming from, they are right where we have to lower taxes and regulations, we have to do that. Still we also need some form of mechanism to balance things out and to make the slave labor countries less attractive to go to.

So you're against a company protecting their investors money AND helping people from places other than America to rise out of the third world sh*tholes they live in and maybe get, let's say, clean running water? Be able to afford food for the family? Be able to pay for simple medical care?

It's up to the people of each nation and the nations themselves to take care of their needs. I see where you're coming from about capital going where it is treated better, and the Kenyan Marxist is making every effort to chase it out of here. I can see both sides of the debate although all I care about is our own survival and would make decisions based on that.

I might get pounded on this one but here goes. I think a good illustration of a country helping themselves was Libya under Kadaffy. I don't like dictatorships, but it is a different world in the Arab world. They don't know freedom, to them freedom is the idea to vote in a radical Islamist and to go over to the next town and kill people who do not believe as they do. They do need a strongman in power to keep themselves from killing each other. Also, as much as I despise socialism, Kadaffy did things like build schools, built them houses with running water, electricity, A/C and had an economy that was growing at 10% plus.

True, Kadaffy has to answer to God for his terrorist actions in the 1980's, but as long as he behaved in the 2000's and 2010's, leave him alone and let him do his thing. He even advocated the idea of Africa helping themselves which is generally a good idea. Maybe he thought that would enrich himself or maybe he was doing it out of the goodness of his heart, I don't know, but I think it is up to each nation to help themselves. What happened last year is a huge step back IMHO but until recently,, Libya had a fairly high living standard. It's up to each nation to help themselves.

American jobs that need to be “protected” make workers into wards of the government

What people need are real jobs that produce real goods and services that are demand in a real economy

Every High School should have a course in being an entrepreneur where kids start and run real small businesses selling whatever they think they can. Why leave all the opportunities to drug dealers?

Yeah, that's another thing, we might have to worry about robot labor too. I can foresee at some point in the future that we might have to enact some sort of negative income tax guaranteeing everyone a wage, IIRC, even Milton Friedman mentioned that.

I was talking to a former co-worker of mine, for craps and giggles, he came up with the idea of the UN banning all cargo ships over 5 tons, except for the military, to bring back manufacturing. I can see it appealing to some and maybe it would bring back domestic manufacture but it is a pipe dream at best.

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