Posted on 09/07/2012 1:54:04 PM PDT by marktwain
This year’s election is going to define the future of our freedom, perhaps more than any other in our history.
For gun owners, there are a number of areas crucial to the survival of our Second Amendment rights. That’s why I took the time to visit with Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential nominee, to find out precisely where he stands on the issues of concern to gun owners.
Chris W. Cox: First, let me start with the most basic question of all. In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, and in the 2010 case McDonald v. City of Chicago, the U.S. Supreme Court—by a 5-4 majority—held that the Second Amendment guarantees the fundamental, individual right of all law-abiding Americans to keep and bear arms. Do you agree that the Second Amendment protects a fundamental, individual right to own and use firearms for all lawful purposes?
Gov. Mitt Romney: Absolutely, and I was pleased when the Court finally rendered a clear and concise decision on this critical issue. The Second Amendment is essential to our free society. I strongly support the right of all law-abiding Americans to exercise their constitutionally protected right to own firearms and to use them for lawful purposes, including self-defense; the protection of family and property; hunting and recreational shooting.
Cox: Obviously, America’s 100 million gun owners are very concerned that their Second Amendment rights hang in the balance at the U.S. Supreme Court by just one vote. President Obama’s two nominees to the Court so far—Justices Sotomayor and Kagan—have a history of anti-gun opinions and activism. And some have predicted that if Barack Obama is re-elected, he may have the opportunity to nominate several more justices to the Court. As president, if you had the opportunity, what type of individuals would you nominate to the Supreme Court? And which of the justices currently serving on the Court would you consider to be the best models of your judicial philosophy?
Gov. Romney: Chris, I believe the next president could indeed have the opportunity to shape the Court for decades to come, and that’s a key reason why the tens of millions of Americans who support the NRA should support my candidacy. My view of the Constitution is straightforward: Its words have meaning. The founders adopted a written constitution for a reason. They intended to limit the powers of government. The job of a judge is to enforce the Constitution’s restraints on government and, where the Constitution does not speak, to leave the governance of the nation to its elected representatives. I believe in the rule of law, and I will appoint wise, experienced and restrained judges who take seriously their oath to discharge their duties impartially in accordance with our Constitution and our laws—not their personal policy preferences.
Cox: Let’s do a quick rundown of where you stand on some gun laws our opponents have been pushing for many years. Do you support additional federal regulation of gun shows?
Gov. Romney: I do not support further federal regulation of gun shows. There are tens of thousands of gun shows in local communities every year. Gun shows are not only an opportunity for millions of law-abiding Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights, but also their First Amendment right to assemble and speak. Anti-gun organizations have perpetrated this myth that somehow laws don’t apply at gun shows and that’s nonsense. All sales from federal firearm licensees are regulated no matter where they take place, and private sales are regulated at gun shows just as they are anywhere else.
Cox: Gun owner licensing?
Gov. Romney: That’s another solution in search of a problem. I do support the current National Instant Check System, because it simply verifies that a gun buyer is not disqualified under cur- rent law. Adding an arbitrary, costly and bureaucratic licensing scheme on top of that would be wasteful and wrong.
Cox: Federal gun registration?
Gov. Romney: Like the majority of Americans, I do not believe that the United States needs more laws that restrict Second Amendment rights. I also recognize the extraordinary number of jobs and other economic benefits that are produced by hunting, recreational shooting, and the firearms and ammunition industry, not the least of which is to fund wildlife and habitat conservation. But I do not support adding more laws and regulations that would burden law-abiding citizens and would be ignored by criminals.
Cox: The United Nations has been conducting serious negotiations on a treaty that would likely impose significant regulation of private gun ownership in the United States. The Bush administration strongly opposed this effort as an infringement on American sovereignty. How would a Romney administration approach this issue?
Gov. Romney: I am troubled by this. In foreign policy, I am guided by one overwhelming conviction: This century must be an American Century. In an American Century, America has the strongest economy and the strongest military in the world. In an American Century, America leads the free world. God did not create this country to be a nation of followers. America must lead the world, or someone else will. Without American leadership, without the clarity of American purpose and resolve, the world becomes a far more dangerous place. Let me make this very clear. As president of the United States, I will devote myself to those ideas, and I will never, ever apologize for America. So by the same token, I will never support or enforce any treaty that attempts to restrict our fundamental rights, or tries to “harmonize” our constitutional rights with all of the less-free nations in the world.
Cox: Would you support legislation to provide national reciprocity for Right-to-Carry permit holders so that they can protect themselves when they’re traveling outside their home states?
Gov. Romney: Absolutely. Fundamental rights don’t disappear when we cross state borders, and self-defense is a fundamental right.
Cox: Would you support the reimposition of a federal ban on semi-automatic firearms incorrectly called “assault weapons?”
Gov. Romney: No. I do not support any additional laws to restrict the right to keep and bear arms.
Cox: As governor, you signed a major bill reforming Massachusetts’ gun registration and licensing laws. Some in the media and elsewhere claim this bill was a reauthorization of the semi-auto ban in Massachusetts. What’s your response?
Gov. Romney: As governor of Massachusetts, I was proud to support legislation that expanded the rights of gun owners. I worked hard to advance the ability of law-abiding citizens to purchase and own firearms, while opposing liberal desires to create bureaucracy intended to burden gun owners and sportsmen. As governor, I also designated May 7 as “The Right to Bear Arms Day” in Massachusetts to honor law-abiding citizens and their right to “use firearms in defense of their families, persons and property for all lawful purposes, including common defense.”
The bill you mention was supported by your state NRA affiliate because it expanded the rights of Massachusetts gun owners. The NRA said at the time that it included “the greatest set of firearm law reforms since the passage of the Commonwealth’s worst-in-the- nation gun laws … a breath of fresh air for law-abiding gun owners.” While not perfect legislation, I agreed with that description of the bill, and that’s why I signed it into law.
Cox: America has a proud hunting tradition. One of the biggest problems facing hunters is finding land where they can hunt. The NRA has worked for a number of years to open as much federal land to hunting as possible. What would you do as president to address this issue?
Gov. Romney: I will work with the Congress to pass legislation to make clear that public lands should be open for hunting unless there’s a legitimate reason otherwise. I also plan to address the regulatory aspect of this issue by nominating people to key positions who support our proud hunting heritage, and understand that hunters are the original conservationists.
Cox: Over the past few years, drug cartel violence along the Southwest border has created significant problems for law enforcement, and has been used by anti-gun politicians in both the U.S. and Mexico as an excuse to call for more American gun laws. How would you deal with the violence in Mexico and its impact in the U.S.?
Gov. Romney: Our border with Mexico remains an ongoing problem, posing serious questions for America’s future. Will drug cartels dominate Mexico’s border region, with greater and greater violence spilling over into our country? And will drug smugglers and terrorists increasingly make their way to our side of the border? These are only some of the very real dangers that America faces, if we continue the policies of the past three years. But it doesn’t have to be this way. We are a democracy. We decide. Your members decide. America’s 100 million gun owners decide. I will offer a very different vision of America’s role in the world and of America’s destiny than what we’ve seen during the past three and a half years.
Cox: One part of the current administration’s policies to deal with Mexican crime was the “Fast & Furious” program. This has turned into a serious scandal. As president, how would you respond if this occurred during your administration? And how would you prevent this kind of disaster in the future?
Gov. Romney: I don’t want to wait until after the election. This problem needs to be addressed right now. I support the language in the current Justice Department appropriations bill to absolutely prohibit this kind of operation. And unlike Barack Obama, I would not support repealing that language in the future.
Cox: Attorney General Holder has steadfastly refused to cooperate with the congressional investigation into “Fast & Furious.” Do you believe Holder should resign or be fired due to his actions?
Gov. Romney: If there is the remotest possibility that our nation’s top prosecu- tors have suppressed evidence that they supported this outrageous operation, then someone has to be held account- able. And I believe that’s where this is headed, so yes, I believe it’s time for Eric Holder to go.
Cox: The NRA has always said that passing more gun control laws will not reduce violent crime. We think the solution to this issue is prosecuting criminals who illegally misuse firearms. But in the Obama administration, prosecutions of criminals who misuse firearms are at the lowest point in the last 10 years. What do you believe is the most effective method for reducing crime?
Gov. Romney: My position is simple: I will enforce the laws already on the books and punish, to the fullest extent of the law, criminals who misuse firearms to commit crimes. I will also provide law enforcement with the proper and effective resources they need to deter, apprehend and punish criminals.
Cox: One of the key areas where presi- dents can affect the Second Amendment rights of Americans is in the people they appoint to key positions. As president, will you appoint people who agree with your position that the Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental, individual right, particularly to the office of attorney general and other Cabinet level appointments, as well as positions that directly impact gun owners such as the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives?
Gov. Romney: That’s a basic starting point, yes. If elected president, yes, I will nominate people who agree that the Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental, individual right and are prepared to implement them throughout government, from the Cabinet level on down.
Cox: Aside from the specific issues, is there anything you’d like to tell our members about the stakes in this election for gun owners and hunters?
Gov. Romney: I do. I believe we are an exceptional country with a unique destiny and role in the world. We are exceptional because we are a nation founded on a precious idea that was born in the American Revolution. We are a people who threw off the yoke of tyranny and established a government of the people, by the people and for the people. We are a people who, in the language of our Declaration of Independence, hold certain truths to be self-evident; namely, that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That sets us apart from the rest of the world, and we don’t need to apologize for it. We should be proud of it. I hope to serve as your president to continue in that proud tradition. We need a president who will stand up for the rights of those who simply want to protect themselves, their families and their homes and who want to continue America’s rich hunting heritage. President Obama has not, but I will. The choice is clear. I hope your members will support me, and I respectfully ask for their votes on Election Day.
Cox: Governor Romney, thank you for your time and for your support of gun owners’ rights. Good luck in November.
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Additional Information: The Romney Record - A Look at Governor Mitt Romney's Record as Governor of Massachusetts as it Relates to the Gun Owners and Sportsmen of Our State - Prepared by: Gun Owners’ Action League (GOAL) - February 2007
-- Samuel Adams
"Posterity, you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it."
-- John Adams
The death of Dr. Joseph Warren at the Battle of Bunker Hill
I’m not the one who is having the problem with understanding.
Our nation has sinned against God for more than a generation. What we see as a result is that there are virtually no men of God now in position to be leader of this country. So what this country is left with is sub-par choices. God has allowed there to be only these two men to have risen to the position they currently hold. Only one of them, not a third party candidate, will become president.
That being the case, there is nothing you can do, now, with getting elected a born again, conservative Christian to be president.
But there is something we can all do to help prevent a thoroughly evil, muslim, marxist from utterly destroying over the next four years what’s left of this country. Beyond this, Obama is a member of a party which is completely anti-God, anti-Jewish, and anti-Christian.
Romney is who will keep Obama out. He belongs to a party which at least has some semblance of pro Judeo-Christian morals and values, honors the Rule of Law, and desires to uphold the Constitution. That many people who call themselves a Republican but no longer personally hold these morals and values is beside the point: the Republican party does.
Sorry, but I am not going to vote for a candidate who supports abortion, the gay agenda, and the rest of the godless agenda of the Left in America. I won't vote for the one with the "D" after his name, and I won't vote for the one with the "R" either. I'll vote for other Republicans downticket who do generally hold to right principles, but Romney is simply a bridge too far. He's a no-go, and ought to be considered as such by any Christian who actually wants to please God, rather than man.
I don’t trust government. I don’t like big government. But, as opposed to living in some fantasyland, government isn’t going to go away because of my personal distrust or dislike. It is here to stay, forever. That is how countries are run.
Sorry, but, unlike you, I won’t help an evil, American-hating Marxist be re-elected.
Well, yes you will, just the other one who's running, instead of the incumbent.
As for the rest, I can see that you don't have a clue what I'm actually saying, so why bother with you?
How clever! You know how to post photos in support of the usual tiresome lies and in your ongoing pep rally for Mittler!!!
Of course, since there is nothing in #'d paragraphs 1-9 of my #26 that you attempt to refute as to Mittler's sorry POS track record. Therefore you concede the substance of each of them. How could you do otherwise???
NICMARLO:
I went to your homepage. As to your 15 Tea Party principles, Mittler would piss on all but 10 and 11. And he would not completely agree with 10. Both major party candidates CLAIM they would keep the Bush tax rates on those with incomes below $250,000. Romney would beef up the special interest tax cuts above that level, which are no skin off my nose regardless of outcome. He would also cut corporate tax rates. Ditto.
You seem to imagine that there is some meaningful difference between Mittler and Obozo. They are BOTH evils. You seem to imagine that God Himself wants you to vote for the "lesser" of two baby-killing, fudge-packer agenda embracing, gun-grabbing, Church persecuting, medical system ruining, etc. evils.
You also seem to imagine that opposing Mittler somehow equates to being a "born again Christian" who hates Mormons. I am a Roman Catholic. If Jesus Christ is not my Savior, I cannot imagine Who would be. I believe that the Scriptural reference to being born again references two sacraments: baptism and confirmation. Within Catholicism, one's god parents take various pledges on the infant's behalf and the process is completed when that same infant has reached the age of reason and, at confirmation, renews those pledges rationally in his/her own right. Thus he/she is "born again of water" (baptism) "and the Spirit" (confirmation). Nothing in my baptism or confirmation (or in my life experience with Mormons generally) would tolerate much less encourage hatred for Mormons as Mormons. The Mormons I have known have been reliably pro-life and pro-family and responsibly conservative unlike Mittler who should be an embarrassment to them. I challenge you to cite even a single instance here wherein I have opposed Mittler BECAUSE he is a Mormon.
Also, see the second paragraph of this post which was posted to mkjessup. It applies to you as well. Rather than defend your candidate's public track record (an impossibility for any actual conservative), you simply CLAIM that Obozo is worse.
I might add that for someone who makes the claim that God somehow would make choices between two social revolutionary monsters, you do have, other than the Tea Party stuff, a remarkably religiously preachy homepage.
Winnebago County, IL???
My reasons for opposing Mittler are stated in part in the numbered paragraphs 1 through 9 in my #26. Understandably, you are not willing to attempt to refute those paragraphs since they are not easy to refute without transgressing obvious truth about Mittler.
Then you want to ascribe to Obozo alone the quality of evil. And you would assign Romney's evil behavior as simply a misunderstanding on his part as allegedly a non-Christian, an allegation and controversy that I am not foolish enough to enter into. There are plenty of people who deny the Christianity of Catholicism though it is historically obvious that Jesus Christ established His Church on Peter. I don't and won't make a career of making believe that I can reliably refute the claims of others that they are Christian. As a Catholic, I will rely on popes and the Teaching Magisterium of the RCC to discern what is Scriptural or anti-Scriptural. Don't hold your breath waiting for any pope to justify anyone voting for baby-killers. Ain't gonna happen.
In refusing to vote for either major party evil, I AM using the brain that God gave me.
You left the GOP because it isn't pure enough for you while you plan to vote for Mittler??? What is that??? AND then you accuse those actual conservatives not willing to sell their own souls as you have of acting because Mittler is not a pure enough conservative. Mittler is no conservative at all and NEVER has been.
In your last three paragraphs, you seem to be doing an awful lot of speaking for God Who probably never appointed you to be His press secretary.
If it would not make sense to you to elect a thoroughly evil person as POTUS, it is hard to imagine why you would vote for Mittler OR Obozo since both are thoroughly evil. As to your Hitler analogy: If Obozo is Hitler, then Mittler is Stalin or vice versa. If you believe that the unborn are people as I do, you will have every confidence that both Obozo and Mittler are similarly committed to adding another 5 million or so baby bodies to the burn pile as murder victims. Stop kidding yourself that EITHER would stop the American Holocaust.
At least you admit that both Obozo and Mittler are public menaces. Why would any moral person vote for a public menace to be POTUS???
The Israelites originally did not have kings. They were ruled directly by God, who provided them with judges to discern the law, disputes among the people, and provide them with God's word. The Israelites sinned and asked for a king to be appointed over them so that they could be ruled by other nations.
Samuel 8:5-7 Saul, a man of "standing" was appointed as the first king of Israel post Exodus from Egypt. So, in a way, they DID elect their king; they just asked Samuel to do it for them (had their representative chose another to lead them; kind of like a one man electoral college). They rejected God in favor of a man, even against warnings.
Speaking of the kings - Jerimiah 8:1-2 At that time, saith the Lord, they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of the priests, and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their graves:
2 And they shall spread them before the sun, and the moon, and all the host of heaven, whom they have loved, and whom they have served, and after whom they have walked, and whom they have sought, and whom they have worshipped: they shall not be gathered, nor be buried; they shall be for dung upon the face of the earth.
How in good conscience could anyone vote for someone that believes they will one day be made even higher than a king, but a god (Mormon Romney)? (let's not forget about that pesky Commandment about not having other gods before the Big Guy)
Or vote for the practitioner of a barbaric religion that follows sharia (Muslim 0bama)?
Both of them reject the true deity of Christ. (Muslims have Him as a prophet and the Mormons have Him as a devout man that became a god.
John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Between 0bama and Romney, which candidate does NOT support -
Baby murder
socialized medicine (which leads to rationing)
restriction of gun rights
fag marriage
The answer is neither, ergo there is no viable choice. Faggotry is an abomination. But, Jesus was sort of lax and rather lenient regarding children -
Matthew 18:5-6 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Or, for the "lesser of two evils crowd" take a look at Genesis 37:12-28
When Joseph, Jacob's favorite son was plotted against by his brothers. They sought to kill him, but one brother convinced the others it would be less evil if they just threw Joseph in a cistern. Then another brother decided it would be lesser evil if they sold Joseph as a slave. Most likely, the Ishmaelites would kill Joseph. Yet, the evil was still in their hearts. They chose the lesser of two evils. And then again chose the lesser of two evils. But, the sin is the same committed in their hearts.
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Sometimes, a man must discern for himself whether he will be committing a sin against his own covenant with God - Romans 14:2-3 For one believeth that he may eat all things, while another who is weak eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him that eateth not, judge him that eateth; for God hath received him.
If one can clearly see another as sinful and abominable, not a follower of God how are they foolish in chosing to not follow-
James 14:7 7 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
If you truly believe and hear God telling you that neither is an option for you, as some other posters have stated (myself included on other threads); I would go ahead and recommend not going about your own course. God doesn't have an (R) after his name and cares not for affiliations you put before HIM.
If you cannot vote for either man in good consciousness, it is perfectly justifiable to vote for neither -
We can be in the world, but not of it.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
This is the lesser of two evils argument - Option A: eternal damnation in a lake of fire.
Option B: Cast into darkness with wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Not yet.
Matthew 12:25-29 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
There is another very interesting parallel -
Matthew 20:16So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Joseph was the youngest (last). As was King David; as was Solomon. As was Jacob lesser than Esau.
I don't think you've thought this all the way through.
Perhaps. We shall see.
Has it not occurred to you that God uses those 'lesser of two evils' situations to manifest His Will and to assure that the best results are produced from what man's limited mind perceives as the worst potential?The fact is, this is absolutely true, throughout time. A great example of this is found in Daniel, who was taken captive and brought to a peoples and king hostile to God, so that God's greater purpose and glory would be revealed through unbelievers by causing man's heart to be softened toward those whom He would have them show mercy and kindness (memory refresher):I don't think you've thought this all the way through.
1 In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came to Jerusalem and besieged it. 2 And the Lord delivered Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, along with some of the articles from the temple of God. These he carried off to the temple of his god in Babylonia and put in the treasure house of his god.Because of Daniel and his faith, he had HUGE influence of many people, especially those with power and command. The same can happen within our country. The Republican party, with all its faults, can at least stand proud (at this time) in that it has not become an EVIL party. It embraces God, Judeo-Christian values, the Constitution, and the Rule of Law. Romney, for ALL his faults and liberal tendencies and even wrongdoing, is part of the Republican party. If he is elected, he will not be surrounding himself with advisers from a party that has thrice denied God, has, up until last week conveniently, denied Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel, contravenes the Rule of Law at every opportunity, embraces moral relativism, homosexuality, and trashes the United States Constitution, all the way up to the Supreme Court, both here and during travels abroad. Helping Obama be re-elected by voting third party (which always helps the incumbent) or not voting at all (low turnout also helps the incumbent) is helping the Democrats retain power, gives them more of a 'mandate' to continue shoving their godless agenda down our throats, and is, de facto, encouraging ever more evil be brought upon this country and our People. These are the known consequences for third party/abstention from voting. God cannot possibly support a persons intention to act in such a way when they already know the consequence is knowingly will help bring about an evil man to power.3 Then the king ordered Ashpenaz, chief of his court officials, to bring into the king’s service some of the Israelites from the royal family and the nobility— 4 young men without any physical defect, handsome, showing aptitude for every kind of learning, well informed, quick to understand, and qualified to serve in the king’s palace. He was to teach them the language and literature of the Babylonians. 5 The king assigned them a daily amount of food and wine from the king’s table. They were to be trained for three years, and after that they were to enter the king’s service.
6 Among those who were chosen were some from Judah: Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah. 7 The chief official gave them new names: to Daniel, the name Belteshazzar; to Hananiah, Shadrach; to Mishael, Meshach; and to Azariah, Abednego.
8 But Daniel resolved not to defile himself with the royal food and wine, and he asked the chief official for permission not to defile himself this way. 9 Now God had caused the official to show favor and compassion to Daniel, 10 but the official told Daniel, “I am afraid of my lord the king, who has assigned your food and drink. Why should he see you looking worse than the other young men your age? The king would then have my head because of you.”
11 Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah, 12 “Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. 13 Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.” 14 So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days.
15 At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. 16 So the guard took away their choice food and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.
17 To these four young men God gave knowledge and understanding of all kinds of literature and learning. And Daniel could understand visions and dreams of all kinds.
18 At the end of the time set by the king to bring them into his service, the chief official presented them to Nebuchadnezzar. 19 The king talked with them, and he found none equal to Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah; so they entered the king’s service. 20 In every matter of wisdom and understanding about which the king questioned them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters in his whole kingdom. 21 And Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
As an additional point, and what I previously stated regarding this:
Our nation has sinned against God for more than a generation. What we see as a result is that there are virtually no men of God now in position to be leader of this country. So what this country is left with is sub-par choices. God has allowed there to be only these two men to have risen to the position they currently hold. Only one of them, not a third party candidate, will become president.Do you believe that God would be pleased with the consequences of your actions in that you would be helping an man with an evil heart who belongs to an evil party be re-elected into the White House? You think that God could possibly say it is preferable to give these kinds of people continued power for another 4 years compared to voting for a Republican party member where there is at least a modicum of chance that God could influence him through REPUBLICAN advisers and administration, who we earnestly pray would be godly, upright men, who have the best interests of the County and people in mind? There is ZERO chance that Obama seeks out even one godly man to influence him or his decisions. We've already witnessed that Obama has been mentored by godless, racist, American-hating terrorists, liars, tax cheats, and frauds for his cabinet. I have more faith that the next Pope would be a Muslim than the current Muslim in the White House would ever stop being a tool of Satan.That being the case, there is nothing you can do, now, with getting elected a born again, conservative Christian to be president.
But there is something we can all do to help prevent a thoroughly evil, Muslim, Marxist from utterly destroying over the next four years what’s left of this country. Beyond this, Obama is a member of a party which is completely anti-God, anti-Jewish, and anti-Christian.
Romney is who will keep Obama out. He belongs to a party which at least has some semblance of pro Judeo-Christian morals and values, honors the Rule of Law, and desires to uphold the Constitution. That many people who call themselves a Republican but no longer personally hold these morals and values is beside the point: the Republican party does.
Since you evidently do not grasp what my homepage is about, however, I shall address that. I am concerned with those who call themselves Christian and claim to have superior Christian knowledge, understanding, virtues, faith and conservative ideologies. It is my observation that these same also believe they have the right to judge the hearts and souls of those who contradict them. It is a sad fact, however, that these "Christian leaders'" own behavior is sabotaging their testimony as their behaviors are in contradiction to the Scriptures. By behaving contrary to the Scriptures, my concern is that unbelievers will shun Christ. As a Christian, I am taught that those things which are of permanence take precedence over the temporal, a lesson apparently quite forgotten by those who presume themselves Christian leaders armed with the hammers and saws. For some, it may be more difficult to attempt to act more like the perfect One and be Christ-like, so I believe the Apostle Paul would not tell me I was being 'preachy' at all; he'd probably understand why I am pointing toward him, an imperfect but perfectly changed man, as a role model for Christian behavior.
The main flaw in your theory is that Romney is evil.
I do not think God would be pleased with my actions of voting for a man that believes he will one day be a god. Romney has surrounded himself with left leaning advisers; abortionists, gun grabbers, global warming loons, queer marriage supporters, and NWO types. I do not have a good choice, nor do I trust what Myth has good in his heart.
In the instances you have provided, the king of Judah was delivered unto an enemy because of his sin. Sin begets sin. God did not do evil, he just allowed the king of Judah to fall to his own demise; the Lord turned from him because he continued to turn from the Lord. That is not an excuse to find lesser ways to turn from the Lord.
Daniel did not chose the lesser of two evils, as your own quote shows -
But Daniel resolved not to defile himself with the royal food and wine, and he asked the chief official for permission not to defile himself this way.
Daniel did not say that it was okay because God allowed Neb to besiege and conquer Jerusalem. It was not okay for Daniel to follow Neb's God because it was lesser evil than the king of Judah.
Instead, as your quote shows, Daniel remained steadfast in his faith and witnessed to King Neb.
Has it not occurred to you that God uses those 'lesser of two evils' situations to manifest His Will and to assure that the best results are produced from what man's limited mind perceives as the worst potential?
I do. But, I don't think HE expects us to chose evil. Rather than succumbing to the world and the belief that all we have left is evil, we should remain steadfast and refuse to chose evil.
God cannot possibly support a persons intention to act in such a way when they already know the consequence is knowingly will help bring about an evil man to power.
Exactly. Which is why I cannot and will not support a man that supports abortion, gay marriage, etc. It does not matter to me whether (R) or (D). Aborted babies are no less dead under abortion champion Romney. The religious institution of marriage is no less harmed if the champion of "queer marriage" is a Republican. Medicine is no less socialized under 0Care than RomneyCare. Gun rights are under no less threat under gun grabber Romney than under gun grabber 0bama.
We do have a choice; not to participate in the evil one's game. he wants us to feel hopeless, to feel fear, to feel like we have to chose the evil choice before us. I don't feel fear. I am not hopeless and I do not accept the choice before me.
Our nation has sinned against God for more than a generation. What we see as a result is that there are virtually no men of God now in position to be leader of this country.
So had the people of Israel, yet Nehemiah still rebuilt Jerusalem. He didn't fall into the evil traps laid before him. See also Moses leading his people out of Egypt. These men were men that remained above the fray (or did their best attempts). They did not settle for the status qua or just accept lesser evil.
If Hillary suddenly jumped ship and became part of the GOP, and was running against 0 would you vote for her?
If 0bama became an (R) and was running against Bill Ayers who would you vote for? My point is Romney supports many of the same atrocities as does 0bama. I do not feel comfortable giving my account by saying, 'well he was a Republican.' God does not vote party line.
At what point is it acceptable to say we will not sully ourselves with such evil?
At what point do we send the message to the GOPE in the general that if you do not put forth candidates to represent us, we will not support them?
You may be comfortable waiting until 2020, but I'm not.
I will not support an abortionist, queer "marriage" supporter, gun grabber, or supporter of socialized medicine. I don't care what party they belong to.
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