[CincyRichieRich]

I really appreciate any help in finding this stuff. Thanks

[cripplecreek]

"It was Sunday morning early in the year 1776. In the church where Pastor Muhlenberg preached, it was a regular service for his congregation, but a quite different affair for Muhlenberg himself. Muhlenberg's text for the day was Ecclesiastes 3 where it explains, 'To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven; a time to be born, and a time to die, a time to plant, and a time to pluck what is planted...'"

"Coming to the end of his sermon, Peter Muhlenberg turned to his congregation and said, 'In the language of the holy writ, there was a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away.' As those assembled looked on, Pastor Muhlenberg declared, 'There is a time to fight, and that time is now coming!' Muhlenberg then proceeded to remove his robes revealing, to the shock of his congregation, a military uniform."

"Marching to the back of the church he declared, 'Who among you is with me?' On that day 300 men from his church stood up and joined Peter Muhlenberg. They eventually became the 8th Virginia Brigade fighting for liberty."

"Frederick Muhlenberg, Peter's brother, was against Peter's level of involvement in the war. Peter responded to Frederick writing, 'I am a Clergyman it is true, but I am a member of the Society as well as the poorest Layman, and my Liberty is as dear to me as any man, shall I then sit still and enjoy myself at Home when the best Blood of the Covenant is spilling? ...So far am I from thinking that I act wrong, I am convinced it is my duty to do so and duly I owe to God and my country."

Black Robe Regiment

[Boogieman]

I’m just wondering if arguing political points is going to do anything to change your pastor’s mind. I think he’s probably not only taken a political position, but also merged that in his own mind with a spiritual outlook. Maybe it’s best to convince him that his conception of how God views “social justice” is mistaken, and go for the head of the snake, so to speak.

One argument I can think of in that regard, is to simply point out that it is the Lord, not the government, who reserves the power to giveth and taketh away. It’s God who we should look towards to bless us with success in our earthly endeavors, and not Caesar. Government is, after all, just something that we have to suffer under until the King returns, and if we place our faith in government, we are no wiser than if we place faith in any human vanity.

[SaraJohnson]

I think it is great that you care enough to make a case to him. Ignorance is not bliss in the long run. :)

If he continues to push leftist power/socialism, get of the “church.” Starve the beast.

[mdmathis6]

Study the passage where Judas Iscariot criticizes Jesus for allowing an expensive bottle of perfume to be poured out on his feet by a penitive prostitute.

“ought not that box had been sold and given to the poor?” Those words as well as the explanation of Judas’ motives were spelled out. If you will note, many “ Christian” social justice advocates use the same type of arguments against the church and other christians. Judas had no care for the poor, but he kept the money box for the group and he liked to steal from it. We also know it was Judas that betrayed Jesus. That’s why I am on record here at FR as declaring Judas Iscariot as being history’s first “Christian”(in name only) social justice advocate!

Do you think I beleive many modern such “advocates” would betray Christ, to advance their own agendas in the name of “christianity”? You betcha! So share this posting with your priest or pastor.

Perhaps not all such groups are evil but we must be wise and use some critical standards when evaluating such groups who are demanding funds and votes for favored candidates from our church churches and fellow believers. Sure some poor soul might get a crust of bread from some ministry but is the “bread of Life”, the Gospel of Jesus actually being promoted...or some poser’s bank accounts?

[Gene Eric]

It’s only necessary to tell your pastor his heart is closed to Christ, and is instead welcoming the word of Hell.