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To: Repeat Offender
Even as a Catholic, I recognize that there are many reasons why individuals may not choose Catholicism. The one you expressed (objecting to one statement by one priest) is, with all due respect, a flawed one. Fr. Pavone has been a decently militant pro-lifer. OTOH, when he is wrong, he is wrong.

I, as a Catholic, agree with you and disagree with him on this statement and agree with you or anyone else who recognizes that we can not do evil to achieve good and that each of us must vote his/her own conscience and not someone else's.

The Catholic Church is a very large institution and doctrinally speaking, Fr. Pavone is pretty low on the food chain, whatever his role with Priests for Life. AND we have near the top even cardinals who are rank disgraces. OTOH, we are fond of remembering that your Savior and mine did not establish a Church exclusively for saints but also for sinners (because He loved sinners in His infinite way) from the outset like Peter who cut off the servant's ear, and doubting Thomas and, ummmm, Judas, each of whom were privileged to be in His inner circle.

Whatever your specific faith, you are quite evidently a thoughtful person and solid pro-lifer. Most Catholics are your allies and not your enemies.

May God bless you and yours!

140 posted on 09/06/2012 12:03:39 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: BlackElk
God Bless you and yours as well. The primary reason I am not Catholic is because I don't feel led to be one. I was a lifelong Presby, but felt led to leave that church. I felt that some of the things were happening contrary to God's Word (when the upper echelons were praying on whether or not to accept homo-marriage). The services at the last Presby Church I attended seemed ho-hum and lukewarm.

I prayed about it and felt led to join a Southern Baptist Church; when I moved from the area, I felt lead to attend another. Sundays I go to my Southern Baptist Church and it is like God is speaking directly to my heart.

Aside from half of my family being Catholic, Jesus tells me that most Catholics are my friends and certainly not my enemy. -

KJV Mark 9: 38And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Your words struck with me and reminded me of these verses. It prompted me to look them up. Of awesome relevance to this thread (in terms of abortion) are verses 37 and 42.....

37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

OTOH, we are fond of remembering that your Savior and mine did not establish a Church exclusively for saints but also for sinners (because He loved sinners in His infinite way) from the outset like Peter who cut off the servant's ear, and doubting Thomas and, ummmm, Judas, each of whom were privileged to be in His inner circle.

I'm fond of the saying 'Jesus is the only perfect person in church.'

171 posted on 09/06/2012 7:43:23 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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