I should have specified that suburban NYC transplants are the problem...I have friends upstate, and they HATE being mistaken for the denizens of ‘the city’, which is the reason the entire state is in an economic malaise. I can use that word now that the DNC has ‘resurrected’ Jimmy Carter. :-)
People from north and west of Westchester county are a whole different type than city people. Even back in the 1970’s people from central or western NY wanted to be seperated from NYC.
Western NY is more like the mid west than the northeast.
However, Buffalo has been in a downward spiral since the 1960’s. Maybe even since McKinnley was shot at the Pan American Exposition. Ever since Teddy Roosevelt took the oath of office in Buffalo, it started going to the dogs. :)