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1 posted on 09/04/2012 7:08:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Ironically my Mennonite ancestors first gathered around Strasbourg Entzheim in the Alsace because of a lack of religious enforcement there that overlooked their reformed Anabaptist beliefs and practice. But the forces of religious dogma eventually returned and determined that not only were they free to work elsewhere, but since most were self employed farmers, eventually they were “freed” to live elsewhere too. So they fled to the Dutch low country while freedom of religion flourished there, then to the Vistula delta while freedom of religion flourished there, then to the USA... tick-tock.


32 posted on 09/04/2012 8:03:11 AM PDT by ME-262 (Ichabod)
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Government lawyers also told the Strasbourg court that wearing a cross is not a “generally recognised” act of Christian worship

(Certainly, not recognized as such by the craven, atheists that permeate today's British government)

37 posted on 09/04/2012 8:28:28 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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If this rule is applied evenly, then I don't see a problem with it. Airline flight attendants have a uniform and if jewelry of any kind is not a part of the uniform, then the airline should be able to tell this woman to not wear a cross. That should apply to all religions — no yarmulke and no hijab. Nothing - just the uniform.
39 posted on 09/04/2012 8:47:09 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Government lawyers also told the Strasbourg court that wearing a cross is not a “generally recognised” act of Christian worship and is not required by scripture.....

Given that in the time the Scripture was being written, wearing a cross was asking for martyrdom, this is factually STUPID logic! Thus do we demonstrate once again that lawyers are trained to choke on gnats but to swallow camels, like the Pharisees Jesus was scolding in Matthew 23:24!

Once again we see a society being forced into transition by an intrusive and intransigent culture. Nobody would have raised an eyebrow if someone was wearing a cross in Britain before the Islamic Influx. Now, civil custom and laws derived from a common culture are used against that culture to assure active avoidance of offense to the hyper sensitive, both of the left and Islam.

40 posted on 09/04/2012 8:57:41 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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Why would the crosses even be seen? I never take my cross off and doubt few have ever even seen it.


41 posted on 09/04/2012 9:01:15 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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42 posted on 09/04/2012 9:06:11 AM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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Coming soon to America...Christianity is being outlawed.


43 posted on 09/04/2012 9:07:07 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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I bet this “judge” has NO problem with homosexuals wearing rainbox flag pins.


44 posted on 09/04/2012 9:07:53 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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IIRC, the hijab is not required by the Koran. So what is their point?
Or do muzzies get special dispensations from leftist dominated bureaucracies and judiciaries?


45 posted on 09/04/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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“did not prevent either of them practicing religion in private”

The words of liars and hypocrites, when Muslims can pray, PUBLICLY, in mass on PUBLIC streets!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096263/The-Mecca-city-In-London-street-faithful-way-pray-mosque-overflows.html#ixzz1lQZBxH16


46 posted on 09/04/2012 9:15:35 AM PDT by Wuli
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Egypt: Kill a Christian, Collect a Reward

by Raymond Ibrahim
September 4, 2012
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3325/egypt-kill-christian-reward


47 posted on 09/04/2012 9:22:08 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Just like the Muslims.


49 posted on 09/04/2012 10:17:12 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Allahu FUBAR!


52 posted on 09/04/2012 10:48:31 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Doesn’t say anything at all about the nature of the business. But no one, repeat NO ONE, wears jewelry of any sort in my shop. I’ve seen rings kill one guy and cost two others fingers. A neck chain wrapped around a lathe spindle is nothing short of spectacular. I simply tell my people I’m not interested in cleaning up their blood puddle because they were wearing their cool stuff. Sometimes wives are a little slow on the uptake when hubby pockets his wedding ring but I just show them what 50 tons can do to a ring finger——they get over it.


54 posted on 09/04/2012 1:07:26 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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Freedom is each man deciding for himself what offends him.
Tyrany is each man deciding for others what offends him.


55 posted on 09/04/2012 2:53:54 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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When I graduated from HS, my mom gave me a gold chain and a small gold cross. I wasn't really that religious at that point but I knew she gave it to me with love and it was a beautiful piece of jewelry in itself, religious meaning or not.

I never pierced my ears 20 times, covered myself in tattoos, died my hair green (maybe some highlites!) or wore clothes that showed my a** off. And I'll be damned if any one is going to tell me I can't wear my mothers cross.

If you don't allow a Muslim to wear whatever head gear or dress they want, you're a bigot. How does a cross/crucifix necklace do anything but express your beliefs and who you are? Will the next thing be to not let people into a certain work place because they are Christian, if they wear a cross or not?

58 posted on 09/04/2012 9:14:14 PM PDT by MacMattico
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“There is a difference between the professional sphere where your religious freedoms necessarily abut onto and confront other interests and the private sphere. The employees concerned could indeed pursue all the generally recognised manifestations of their religion outside the work sphere.”

The QC also told the court that, unlike the Muslim headscarf for women, wearing a cross is not a “generally recognised” act of Christian worship and is not required by scripture. “A great many Christians do not insist on wearing crosses at all, still less visibly,” he said.

Bottom line, it's ok for Muslims, not Christians. They can try to spin and rationalize like liberals do, but anyone who doesn't have their liberal blinders on can see that this is about attacking Christianity, nothing else.

60 posted on 09/05/2012 3:41:48 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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Government lawyers also told the Strasbourg court that wearing a cross is not a “generally recognised” act of Christian worship and is not required by scripture...

And the crime here is that a government believes it can define what is or is not a tenet of any particular religion. When a government can define your religious belief, it is greater than God...

62 posted on 09/05/2012 5:06:26 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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