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To: edge919
Here's the problem. The HI DOH has a standard form that someone submits to request a letter of verification ... which is the same form used to request a birth certificate. Hawaii would not accept that form by itself and made Bennett submit a secondary list of "facts" for them to verify, which would be the part, "as stated by the applicant." Why would they do that and not simply take the form??

There may be some bureaucratically inscrutable reason for it. Can you please document that they would not simply take the form by itself" I'm not saying I doubt your asssertion, I just would like to see the evidence of it. Thanks

Cordially,

251 posted on 09/05/2012 5:13:04 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
It's documented here:

link

Bennet called Hawaii and spoke to their Deputy Attorney General Jill T. Nagamine, who referred him to several links. Subsequent to that referral, he submitted the form along with a list based on her reference to the statutory links:

Here now is the correspondence chain, starting with an email from Nagamine, the Hawaii deputy attorney general, which apparently followed a phone conversation between her and Bennett.

From: Jill T. Nagamine Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:15 PM To: Bennett, Ken Subject: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

The first link is to the Department of Health’s website that was created in response to the high volume of inquiries about the President’s birth certificate. It includes the press releases issued by the former Republican-appointed Director of Health. http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

The second is to section 338-18, Hawaii Revised Statutes, which governs the confidentiality of vital records. Let me direct you to paragraph (g) which relates to verification of records. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

Another link is to section 338-14.3, Hawaii Revised Statutes, which pertains to verification. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

In his subsequent written request, Bennett says:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

At which he gives those secondary items. Note: he specifically asked to have the items on the form verified. Note: He did NOT identify the person as Obama comma II. Note: He specifically asked for the following verification:

Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. did NOT verify the items in the form. Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. did NOT verify that the record for "Mr. Obama" is a true and accurate representation of the original record in the files. Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. only said that information in an "original" vital record for Obama comma II matches information that was submitted by Bennett. It's not the same thing.

All this was in March. Hawaii took two months forcing Bennett to submit "proof" that he was "eligible" to receive information before giving him the uncertified letter of verificatoin. Hawaii did NOT do this for the MDEC request, but it did give them a certified letter ... containing the seal that all of Obama's birth records lack. Why the difference in treatment??

269 posted on 09/05/2012 9:58:54 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Diamond
" There may be some bureaucratically inscrutable reason for it."

Let's say, out of the extreme realm of possibilities, that ?
For the sake of this argument that this only happens in Hawaii.... what if ? Bennett also submitted that form to other states and had no run around with the people in other state's Department of Health or Vital Statistics ?

Come on now, doesn't this just spark a little suspicion ? raise a few eye brows ?

You got to remember, back in 1961 Hawaii could not have been giving out Birth Certificates fast enough and I can only guess that there was not much over sight of what was going on.
Back in 1961 in Hawaii, in which ? just became a new state of the union just a few years earlier there must have been a lot of room for fraud back then.

You know how you can tell when someone is lying to you ? or trying to pull a fast one on you ?

It's when their information, or story keeps on changing.
Their story and facts do not line up.

287 posted on 09/06/2012 7:38:47 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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