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Adultery: Is it the grown-up way to love?
Ottawa Citizen ^ | September 2, 2012 | Kate Spicer

Posted on 09/02/2012 6:17:39 AM PDT by Loyalist

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To: Loyalist

“Catherine Hakim is a controversialist. She says prostitutes are role models”

You’re in. You’re officially invited to speak at the DNC convention.


21 posted on 09/02/2012 6:51:53 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Loyalist

It is interesting in our day that sodomy is called homosexual, adultery is called affair, the drunkard is a respected alcoholic, and the murderer is temporarily insane. We should go back to using the orginal words. Moslem should remain Moslem.


22 posted on 09/02/2012 6:54:01 AM PDT by Ramonne
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To: Loyalist

Not real life, huh? Until her husband finds out. Then the party is over.

I don’t know of any husband that would look kindly on being cuckolded. I love my wife & kids, but if I ever found out she was cheating on me, the marriage would be over.


23 posted on 09/02/2012 6:56:28 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Popman
to break such a trust is unfathomable...

Perfect description. I'm right there with ya, brother!

24 posted on 09/02/2012 6:58:08 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: cdcdawg
I think most men would do well to just date women, or stock up on porn for their natural urges and get a dog for companionship the rest of the time.

Remember, Onan wasn't punished for rubbing one out, he was punished for disobeying God. He could have been told to water the garden and failing that, got the same punishment. He just happened to be told to have impregnate his sister-in-law and didn't.

25 posted on 09/02/2012 6:59:45 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (You ain't holding anybody's feet to the fire ya lousy limp noodle.)
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To: cdcdawg

I’ve been stunned over the years by the number of women who will cheat on their significant others at the drop of a hat. Many of them you would never suspect from how they look or act. My conclusion is that they are better at it than men.


26 posted on 09/02/2012 7:09:25 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Loyalist

Oddly enough, there may be some biological truth in there, though she misunderstands it.

To start with, men have the basic biological prerogative to spread their DNA around, resulting in offspring from several different women. Women, on the other hand, have the double basic biological prerogative to get the best male DNA donor, *and* a male who will be best at providing for her offspring. And when there are more than a minimum number of men, these are usually not the same two men.

But this is basic biology. Humans innovated socially enforced marriage, which gives a better outcome to children, women and men than does basic biology, even monogamous biology.

Marriage helps assure men that the children his wife has, have his DNA, for which he gives up on having multiple female partners. In exchange, the woman is given some assurance that her husband will not make children with other women, splitting his provision between them, however she accepts that neither his DNA nor his provision will be the best, just adequate.

And marriage definitely helps children, because a two parent family raises children oriented to success and prosperity; whereas a single parent child is raised to a survival orientation, a much harder life, which is why they have a 60% greater chance of becoming a criminal offender.

However, marriage has two problems outside of the family. The first of these is the dowry, that girl’s families do not select mates for their DNA and prosperity, but to enrich her family, not the couple and their children. This results in very bad couplings between elderly men and very young girls.

The other problem is that many people are neither designed to breed, nor, according to biology, should they. However, they still *want* to breed, and thus interfere with the married couple and their children.

Now all of this is background to explaining why biology itself has come up with means to distract the non-breeders, to prevent this interference. This includes a litany of tricks, possibly including homosexuality, prostitution, and sexual aggression in postmenopausal women.

But again, these are just basic biological tricks, and humans should come up with a better means for non-breeders to quit interfering with the breeders. This does not have to be oppressive, but it does have to be clear that while non-breeders are mostly still compelled to want sex, they should “keep it to themselves” and others like them, who also should not be breeding, or raising children for that matter.


27 posted on 09/02/2012 7:14:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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“...best male DNA donor, *and* a male who will be best at providing for her offspring. And when there are more than a minimum number of men, these are usually not the same two men.”

Does that suggest that good DNA and success in providing for offspring are unrelated? It appears to be a contradiction. The best overall indicator for potential success in our culture is IQ, and there is most certainly a genetic component.


28 posted on 09/02/2012 7:25:06 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Loyalist

LIBERAL females are not worth it

avoid them like the plague


29 posted on 09/02/2012 7:30:01 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Loyalist
Those that do it sell their soul and commit treason against their spouse.

LLS

30 posted on 09/02/2012 7:32:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Sirius Lee

Onan being the son of Judah, from whose line would come our Messiah! (as in The Lion of the tribe of Judah!) No wonder God the Father was unhappy with Onan. Satan’s first opportunity to try to genetically mess up the line from whence Jesus would come!


31 posted on 09/02/2012 7:35:39 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: Loyalist

All a person has to do is watch some of the daytime talk shows, where people have embraced the “do what you want to and be free” culture.

Then ask yourself: Are these people happy? Has their lifestyle made them happy?


32 posted on 09/02/2012 7:49:44 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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The women are all frightening, they’re box-ticking nutcases who make you feel like you are being interviewed for the job of husband.

Well...date American TV addicts at your own risk. :)

33 posted on 09/02/2012 7:59:00 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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most women don’t want to work in career jobs and feminists are an elitist minority whose battles are irrelevant to all but a small group

Well, she is actually right about these two things. The rest is just bomb throwing to get attention.

34 posted on 09/02/2012 8:19:43 AM PDT by Valpal1
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“A successful affair while married is one that makes both parties happier than they would otherwise be, but has no negative consequences for the two families”

That is one of the most pathetic, self-delusional things I’ve ever read.

If you are cheating on your spouse, you are lying to him. A marriage based on lies and distrust is a sham. Living with a lying, dishonest spouse is a pathetic shadow of what should be. If it survives, it’s because there is something wrong with both partners.


35 posted on 09/02/2012 8:19:45 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Scotswife
Donchya just love the liberal “moral code”

It isn’t just that they refuse to grow up and be decent people.

No.

They have to find stupid ways to make it sound good.

Is that good enough?

No.

Then they find ways to tell all the grown ups they are the ones with the problem

And even then, is that good enough?

No.

Then they have to burn down the world.

Is that finally good enough?

No.

They have to do it in the name of peace and love.

They are a plague on life itself.

36 posted on 09/02/2012 8:26:47 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Popman; cdcdawg

You’ve probably got me beat because our anniversary is 12-20-80 but basically 32 years.

The love of my life manages things with “To Do Lists” so the kids are off to school, laundry is done, things are organized, vacuumed, dusted, shopped for, etc.

A year or two ago I suggested that she put me on the “morning list” so I’d have a nice wake up and a tension free day but NO! I have to be nice, buy her nice stuff and take her to the beach. Women. I even have to make my own coffee and toast. Ridiculous. ;-)


37 posted on 09/02/2012 8:27:26 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Talisker

Yes they are.


38 posted on 09/02/2012 8:41:11 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: cdcdawg

Biology hasn’t kept up with technology. Biologically both men and women are still programmed for the physical world of hunting, gathering, enduring, ie self-sufficiency in the wild.


39 posted on 09/02/2012 8:41:56 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Women also have a biological drive to vary the genes of their offspring. It’s the perfect flip-side of the male drive to distribute seed. Several recent studies have confirmed this.


40 posted on 09/02/2012 8:43:59 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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