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To: SUSSA

I have no need of warmed over Jeffersonian lies against a man who was Washington’s chief ally for 25 yrs. and one of our greatest Founders.

Washington, on the other hand, refused to allow Jefferson’s name to be uttered in his presence after his treachery became known to him.

The first class-war rhetoric was that of Jefferson, now faithfully followed by the Democrats, when he spread falsehoods about banks to rally the no-nothings and mob against them. Like The Disaster today, Jefferson’s economic ignorance practically destroyed the US economy.

Without doubt Jefferson was the most overrated president and the only thing worthwhile in his terms was a complete accident. After Livingston negotiated the Louisiana Purchase Madison had to shut Jefferson up because he did not believe it was constitutional.

He was also instrumental in the South eventually trying to destroy the Union because of his opposition to the Constitution.

I can’t help but laugh at his declaration of war against Burr, scumbag against scumbag. If you want to see an out-of-control president willing to ignore law and decency read about the trial of Burr.

If you want to know Jefferson you cannot depend on the Leftists who love him.


123 posted on 09/02/2012 8:13:46 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob
At the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, Hamilton proposed his vision for American government: a President serving for life on good behavior, Senators serving for life on good behavior, and an Assembly elected every three years. In Hamilton’s government, the President would have absolute veto, the Supreme Court would have immediate jurisdiction of all lawsuits and the Federal government would appoint the State governors.

As Treasury Secretary that Hamilton left his most disastrous mark in American history. Inspired by Jean-Baptiste Colbert, Chief Finance Minister of the “Sun King” Louis XIV, Hamilton encouraged an economic policy consisting of a central bank, government subsidization of industry and protectionist tariffs. All though Hamilton himself was probably not corrupt while at the Treasury, his actions directly led to privileged men “in the know” to enrich themselves from his policy.

Before he was defeated in a dual Hamilton referred to the Constitution as “frail and worthless”. He was bitter that the country rejected his ideas of mercantilism and an all-powerful central government and spent his last years attacking Jefferson and Jefferson’s ideas of small government mainly through the newspaper he created which is known today as the New York Post. He belittled Jefferson and others who spoke too much of liberty; pushing the idea that America should rather pattern itself after the British, French, and Spanish empires.

Historian Jeff Taylor, wrote in his book; “Where Did the Party Go?”:

“Hamilton, under the influence of the two political theorists most distasteful to Jefferson, Hobbes and Hume, was frankly the champion of the Leviathan State.”

George Will wrote: “We honor Jefferson, but live in Hamilton's country”. Leftist writer Michael Lind edited an entire book of essays celebrating this fact entitled “Hamilton's Republic”. Neocon pundit David Brooks frequently writes a New York Times or Wall Street Journal op-ed celebrating the Hamiltonian political agenda, or urging a "revival" of the Hamiltonian agenda of more and bigger government. Neocon William Kristol is also a fan of Hamilton’s political theories.

I do not assert that Hamilton came to his political and economic beliefs out of any malice toward the people of the States. I only assert that his policies were, and are, wrong and have inevitably led to the mess we have today.

124 posted on 09/02/2012 10:18:29 PM PDT by SUSSA
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