[Melas]

I’ve just never seen an open pro-abort survive here.

Since when did no abortion except in the cases of rape, incest and life of the mother become pro-abortion? I feel like I've woken up in the twilight zone.

[EternalVigilance]

The first principle of this country is that the raison d’etre, or reason for being, of all human government, is the equal protection of our individual God-given, unalienable rights, starting with the right to life.

Romney, with his judicial supremacist, pro-choice for states, pro-abortion-if-a-majority-says-it’s-okay position, denies that our right to live is God-given and therefore unalienable. He thinks it is instead up to the choice of men.

As I said, he is a pro-choice democrat, by definition. He’s not pro-life, once you peel away the one thin layer of craven lies he added to run for president.

If a politician said the courts could legitimately strip away your right to Keep and Bear Arms, or that a majority vote could strip away that right, or that the states could outlaw the keeping or bearing of arms if they wanted to, would you venture to call him “pro-Second Amendment”?

It’s silly, frankly.

[EternalVigilance]

It’s pro-abortion for the dead child.

I’m sorry that you don’t understand the simple principle of equality before the law. It’s the foundation stone of this free republic.

[Nowhere Man]

Since when did no abortion except in the cases of rape, incest and life of the mother become pro-abortion? I feel like I've woken up in the twilight zone.

I see myself as a libertarian, not sure how to describe it, but as I older, I'm more of a Barry Goldwater (although I'm against planned Parenthood) type or since I'm into science fiction, L. Neil Smith or Robert A. Heinlein type. If I was a Dungeons and Dragons character (I'm heavy into role playing games), I'd be "chaotic good," basically good but I'd rather make up my own mind on moral issues with various sources of input ranging from religion to what I see in the real world.

I am very pro-life myself, before we take a life, we must make sure all other options are exhausted before making such a decision. Because of that, I even lean against the death penalty with exceptions. Without life given to us by God or whatever one believes, there is no freedom.

Even so, I think abortion in general should be left to the States to decide. I'd like to see 50 pro-life States but under our system, that is the way it is, the Feds should be silent on the issues, not stopping it or promoting it, it is not their job.

I'm a realist, reality many times flies in the face of ideology. We live in a "grey to black morality world" where humans are not infallible, we make mistakes. There are no or very few "white hats" except Jesus Himself. The best we can do it to make the grey as light as possible.

Like you, I cannot ask a woman to carry a child of rape, it is a tall order to ask her to do. I think it is noble for her to carry it all the way, either to give the child up for adoption or raise the child. Still, I can see where it would be traumatic for her and her husband/family. It pains me but reality as it is, this is a point where I have to let her make the decision.