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FACT CHECK: Ryan takes factual shortcuts in speech
Associated Press ^ | August 30, 2012 | By JACK GILLUM

Posted on 08/30/2012 5:15:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good. There is a direct relationship between the effectiveness of anything the Romney/Ryan campaign does and the frequency, anger, volume and shrillness of the MSM’s negative analyses. This measure beats polls any day.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 6:41:52 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Laying out the first plans for his party's presidential ticket, GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan took some factual shortcuts Wednesday night when he attacked President Barack Obama's policies on Medicare, the economic stimulus and the budget deficit.

Does anyone other than the "pencil necks" themselves, take them seriously? Especially with their petty claims, weak sources, and stretches. I do not like to be told what is and is not important to an issue. I like to decide myself, not listen to people with questionable motives.

The MSM also claims that it is objective and unbiased. Ha ha!

22 posted on 08/30/2012 6:43:09 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Since when does AP care about “short cuts”? LOL This is the best they have.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 6:43:36 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Walker handled himself well on the “facts”, showing disdain for the MSNBC goblins that attacked him about this after Ryan’s speech. It was surreal to watch as they gang banged on him. Why they allow themselves to be interviewed by anyone there is beyond me. Priebus was called a liar and racist by Matthews just a few days ago and yet they subject themselves to this treatment. Condi handled herself well under attack too. That womanly man at MSNBC leading the charge dedicated many a show to cast aspersions on Walker when he was being recalled and during that election process and he still took to the mike to be abused. Boggles my mind. He is a better man than I to tempt fate, but he clearly stood his ground but nevertheless I am sure she will dedicate more shows and use his words and pound the word liar upon him over and over.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 6:47:25 AM PDT by commonguymd (New media has not replaced the MSM. It has emboldened it. Never underestimate the power they have.)
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To: jospehm20

“I often wonder how the AP and the rest of the MSM plan to regain their credibility once Obunghole is out.”

You would think they would love to always have republicans in power. It is the only time they do investigative journalism. The only time they work instead of passing tweets is when they can uncover some republican scandal.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 6:56:18 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: jimbo123

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9kOP8ORAK0

Esrskin Bowles on why Obama did not pursue the plan : POLITICS


26 posted on 08/30/2012 6:58:21 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: jospehm20

I wonder how much the dinosaur media gets from us the US taxpayers through the government.

One of the first things Ryan needs to look at is where the taxpayer’s money is going for.

If there is media money, it needs to stop just like the Planned Parentless group.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 7:00:21 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
That was written by an Axelrod staffer. Bet on it. I will pull one section. Tell me Democratic staff didn't write this:

"Ryan himself voted for an auto bailout under President George W. Bush that was designed to help GM, but he was a vocal critic of the one pushed through by Obama that has been widely credited with revitalizing both GM and Chrysler."

The second sentence has no bias at all, right? No agenda there.

First, the GM bailout under Bush was after the Obama election, and was done (much to my chagrine) at Obama's urging. Stupidly, the GOP bought into it, and laid the ground work for justification in later bailout.

Secoondly, stating that it was the SECOND bailout that 'worked' is a stretch, and pure Obama-propaganda.

28 posted on 08/30/2012 7:01:02 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NONE of these are disputed, its just spin. The AP can bite me


29 posted on 08/30/2012 7:02:08 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: ilgipper

Also, the Bush auto “bailout” was a loan not a direct transfer of US taxpayer funds to union thugs, the directed shutdown of independent dealerships, and the creation of an auto “Tsar” that demanded GM manufacture the flamable Volt.


30 posted on 08/30/2012 7:06:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: commonguymd

The very fact that Walker was on her program was defiant proof that he had won, and she had lost. His very presence was a poke in her eye. Just him Being There was rubbing it in.

But, yeah, there is absolutely no point in any republican worth his name to show up on MSLSD. Just save your breath. They’re un-educable.


31 posted on 08/30/2012 7:06:55 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

32 posted on 08/30/2012 7:08:27 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Democrats new name = The CSPT - The Communist/Satanic/Pervert/Treason Party)
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To: jospehm20
I often wonder how the AP and the rest of the MSM plan to regain their credibility once Obunghole is out.

Wrong question.

I often wonder if the AP and the rest of the MSM doesn't give a s*** if they have zero credibility and are clearly members of the Democrat National Committee, outright, parroting every talking point a Dem puts out and making inane (and insane) observations about so-called Republican "failings" with an obvious double-standard and pure hypocrisy that Pravda, itself, would be ashamed of?

Actually, no, even that question is wrong. It should not be a question, it should be a clear statement of fact.

33 posted on 08/30/2012 7:09:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Travis McGee

“THE FACTS: Ryan’s claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.”

The AP and the rest of the media propaganda machine usee this same line to overlook Obama’s cuts.

I wish I could confront this idiot from the AP in person as well as others in the State Controlled media and ask them this. If a Doctor, Hospital, or any other provider all the sudden STOPS TAKING MEDICARE because the cost of accepting it makes it cost prohibitive and you as a Medicare Recipients suddenly lose your favorite provider, are you NOT EFFECTING Medicare Recipients?

What a bunch of mindless MORONS we have in the American Media today!!!!!!


34 posted on 08/30/2012 7:11:20 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The donkeys down at the Ass. Press are getting worried. Who is “fact checking” the Ass. Press?


35 posted on 08/30/2012 7:11:55 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: A'elian' nation
You would think they would love to always have republicans in power. It is the only time they do investigative journalism. The only time they work instead of passing tweets is when they can uncover some republican scandal.

These useful idiots don't want to actually work...they prefer sitting on their collective azzes taking their DNC/Axelrod talking points and regurgitating them about the MSM.

When Rush plays his MSM montages of these creeps, it's obvious they don't have to do much thinking or "work".

36 posted on 08/30/2012 7:12:37 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Ryan told the truth and nailed obama to the cross.


37 posted on 08/30/2012 7:13:04 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Mr Rogers

“Does anyone believe these ‘fact check’ things anymore? “

Those that pay attention part of the time believe them. Fact checked? They must know what they are talking about.

Snopes is still the final word according to many.


38 posted on 08/30/2012 7:13:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Lazamataz

I can almost be certain we will not see any fact checking next week during the Rat meeting. No, on second thought, I think we will. The crAP and the rest of the state controlled media will factcheck every speaker from I want my birth control for free and spoiled brat Sandra Fluke to The One himself and declare everything stated as TRUE.

There we have it folks. Modern day fact checking by the State Controlled media. The old Soviet Pravda Editors would be proud of our media today.


39 posted on 08/30/2012 7:17:58 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If this came from a reputable news source I might take notice, but since it’s the ap ..............


40 posted on 08/30/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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