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To: Nachum; Moltke
Hindsight is 20:20

Same as revisionist history.

By 1972 the Baader-Meinhoff Group of German terrorists was history but resurfaced remnants formed the Red Army Faction. Both had not only ties to the PLO but members of both had trained in PLO camps oin Lebanon. Does the name Rudi the Red mean anything to you?

The Red Brigades had bloody actions in Italy at the same time. By 1968 "The Anarchists Cookbook" had become contraband in most European countries.

So while dedicated military anti-terror groups might not have been formed by the time of the 1972 Olympics, every country had dedicated anti-terror units with attendant intelligence teams. These police units were well aware o the international web of terrorist ties and the powerful role of soviet support for all of them, though sometimes at several removes. The chief training camps for international terrorists were in Libya and Lebanon and Cuba in the western hemisphere.

One of the deeper problems that W.Germany faced was the infiltration of their intelligence and police units by E. German Stasi agents, indirectly controlled by the Soviets. The full extent wasn't revealed until the collapse of communism. Beyond providing intelligence to the Stasi these moles were agente provocateurs. In one significant instance creating a student martyr. During one of the early student riots a W. German policeman shot and killed a student riot causing an inflamed reaction and fuel specifically for the Baader-Meinhoff Group. The policeman was later revealed to be a member of the Communist party and a Stasi agent to boot.

1968 was as bloody in Europe as it was here. Absent the urban black riots but aced by the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia. So to say that It was basically the village cops providing ?security? at the 72 Munich games.shows an ignorance of history of a critical era of our times.

Munich a village? LOL

18 posted on 08/29/2012 10:17:56 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

Munich wanted to portray itself as “The Happy Games”, to show that they had overcome their Nazi past, so security was lax.


20 posted on 08/29/2012 10:20:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Covenantor
Munich a village? LOL

Forgive me for starting at the bottom of your post, but yes, that is something of a self-styled byword even today. Munich: The Largest Village on Earth. Google that term and you'll find numerous hits. I spent a few years there and that's how they like to present themselves.

No point in reiterating the RAF history. Wikipedia has a lengthy article on that topic. The timeline at least (if you distrust Wikipedia on politics) is accurate.

In any case, a terrorist attack on Olympic Games had at that time no precedent. It was as unexpected as Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition. The RAF attacked industrialists, politicians, bankers etc. - but not sporting venues. And it was not the RAF, of course, that did carry out that attack.

No doubt it turned out to be a major f*ck-up by the local cops, and then the German government in the aftermath; that was the basis of my 'hindsight' comment. I have no interest in, or intent of, revising history. Nor of offending anyone on this topic.

22 posted on 08/29/2012 12:46:04 PM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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