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To: LibertarianLiz
And, so it begins. This is inevitable, once you redefine marriage to include gays; what possible reason could you give to NOT redefine it to include all other types of arrangements.

I agree. The recent SCOTUS decisions leave no room whatever to ban polygamy. What about bi-sexuals? Don't they have the same rights as others? So the argument will go, and they'll be right under the current state of the law, IMHO.

The acceptance of "gay marriage" is simply the beginning of the end of marriage, period.

I respectfully disagree. Gays didn't begin the whole "redefinition" of marriage movement. Rather, Christians did. First, birth control became acceptable, despite the fact that nearly all Christian denominations condemned it for 2,000 years. Second, divorce for cause, like adultery, grew in acceptance, until finally "no fault" became the norm. This made the marriage contract terminable at will unilaterally by either party for any reason or no reason. The no fault divorce law was signed into law in California by none other than Ronald Reagan.

Ultimately, Christians had redefined marriage to the point where gays could honestly say "hey, your "marriages" look an awful lot like our relationships. Kids are completely optional, and there's no lifelong commitment. We pay our taxes like everybody else, so we should be entitled to the same opportunity to avail ourselves of that institution, now called marriage." And, frankly speaking, they were right about that. We do have a little thing called equal protection of the laws.

Pope Paul VI was a prophet.

We Christians have none to blame but ourselves.

50 posted on 08/28/2012 7:29:01 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Unam Sanctam; manc; Gluteus Maximus
Gluteus, you're exactly right. Heteros have already "redefined" marriage via divorce/remarriage, = serial monogamy, or one could just as well say consecutive polygamy, which is not one-man-one-woman marriage.

The heteros have even more destructively "redefined" sex itself: obliterating its natural connection to procreation via drugs, devices and surgery. This is every bit as radical as obliterating one's natural gender by drugs, devices and surgery.

Once a society has accepted divorce and contraception, there isn't much "definition of marriage" left: it's been pretty thoroughly smashed. The gays and the poly's are just scavengers sifting through the rubble and picking out the garbled fragments they fancy.

66 posted on 09/02/2012 8:26:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Unam Sanctam; manc; Gluteus Maximus
Gluteus, you're exactly right. Heteros have already "redefined" marriage via divorce/remarriage, = serial monogamy, or one could just as well say consecutive polygamy, which is not one-man-one-woman marriage.

The heteros have even more destructively "redefined" sex itself: obliterating its natural connection to procreation via drugs, devices and surgery. This is every bit as radical as obliterating one's natural gender by drugs, devices and surgery.

Once a society has accepted divorce and contraception, there isn't much "definition of marriage" left: it's been pretty thoroughly smashed. The gays and the poly's are just scavengers sifting through the rubble and picking out the garbled fragments they fancy.

67 posted on 09/02/2012 8:29:09 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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