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Posted on 08/28/2012 1:19:22 PM PDT by NYer
As a classical liberal, intellectual honesty compels me to proclaim it matters not how the child was conceived.
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Doesn’t every crime have some kind of residual effect?
I have to agree on this one.
The rape argument is simply to get the camels nose in the tent.
Sometimes life at conception is an uncomfortable thing to defend, but it is not complex.
Beautiful, not much left that needs to be said.
No, it is much worse than that, because a side effect would be an increase in spurious rape allegations, with near certainty. It is already apparent that many - if not the majority of - rape allegations are merely buyers' remorse. Adding even more incentive does not help things.
The comments on this topic have become so surreal that I can’t believe what I am reading.
Does anyone know what the bottom line message is supposed to be with all this rape discussion? I mean other than it being
a gotcha for democrats to put the GOP in a corner where they have to express their opinion on it?
Is there actually anyone that expects there to be a law that forces rape victims to carry a rapists child?
And if so, is that a law that a candidate should promote while attempting to get elected?
I am sorry to disagree, you did not go far enough. several years ago I watched a talking heads show where a woman OBGYN said that if she could legally only perform abortions if the pregnancy risked the life of the mother she was certain that she could find a reason with EVERY pregnancy.
These people are insidious and will stop at nothing.
What soycd said! How did we get here?
We’re talking about an “exception” in certain cases. EXCEPTION to WHAT? Abortion is essentially on demand as it is. Why are we talking about exceptions as if there is already a federal ban? (And what about states rights? Will we defend California’s right to determine their abortion laws if Roe is overturned?)
Perhaps since we can’t outlaw abortion for the forseeable future, we can just put the burden on the woman’s choice. If she “chooses” to abort the child, then that automatically mandates death penalty for the rapist if convicted.
That way if we concede that the mother has a right to terminate one life then the state has a duty to terminate the other.
That would eliminate the issue of false accusations of “legitimate rape” too.
The only possible reason to abort a child is to defend the life of the mother. In that singular case, its a choice of the mother as to defend her life or give it up. I wonder how often that medical necessity bares its face.
This is pseudo-science. Many raped women may do fairly well carrying a baby to term. Many raped women may regret aborting a child conceived in rape. But there is no way on earth that every single raped and impregnated woman is emotionally and physically better off giving birth.
This doesn't settle the morality of aborting a child conceived in rape or of a society's permitting it, but people not already persuaded that it is wrong will be repelled by the false absolute.
Statistics speak for themselves .... abortion raises breast cancer risk by 40%.
National Cancer Institute Researcher Admits Abortion Breast Cancer Link
The question of morality is this:
Is it permissible in your moral structure to kill a child?
The answer to that question alone establishes a firm foundation for the rest of your moral views.
See my reply 11. The libs will use that as an excuse for every abortion
“Is it permissible in your moral structure to kill a child?”
This is the meat of it. The answer to this question defines who and what a person is. Simple and complete. Thank you.
Paul Ryan believes the abortion exception if the mother’s
life is threatened. Isn’t that against the faith? Ryan is
falling away further as Romney’s running mate, doing this, he supports Romney’s THREE abortion exceptions.
And someone put very well...
...”By giving power to the crime of abortion in ANY circumstance, Romney and Ryan are giving power to sin — which in essence is a LIE against God. So, here comes the whole means vs. ends argument. Is it okay to prop up a lie against God to win political office for the purported end of repealing HHS, etc? I think we all know the answer to that.”
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