Yours is a question of location. The physicalist believes everything that exists is fundamentally matter, most likely, elementary particles whether points of potentiality, centers of mass/energy, units of spatially extended. All abstract entities fail to meet this test. For example thought, logic, reason, rational thought, numbers, consciousness, the fact that there are other minds than my own, ethical truths, aesthetic judgements, truth, beauty, justice - all products of mental events or expressed as a mental event - fail to meet the test of extension of spatiotemporality. They are not 'made' of the material which complell the physicalists ontology...but nothing meets that test. Physicalists have no way of explaining the appearance of irreducible, genuinely mental properties in the cosmos. Jaegwon Kim,(highly published philospher and strict physicalist) stated that his fellow phsicalist "must simply admit the irreality of the mental and that natualism exacts a steep price and cannot be had on the cheap." If feigning anesthesia - denying consciousness construed along common sense lines is real - is the price to be paid to retain naturalism then the price is too high. Fortunantly,, the theistic arguement from consciousness reminds us that it is a price that does not to be paid.
The dualist must admit the the causal connection to the brain and mental events. Physical events and properties do not hold true for mental events. One's thoughts, feelings of pain, or sensory experiences do not have weight. Brain functions are the result of biochemical and electrical activities. Mental events do not have such physical qualia. Likewise memories are not stored in the brain, but are stored in the mind, yet the causal connection with the brain is irrefutable.
I do not think I was much help in answering your question. I guess my point is that any abstract entity and mind have no physical quality and are therefore do not extend spatiotemporally.
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Lemme just quickly add “Universal Ethical Truths”, and the reason we know them to be universal is because peopel raised in wholly hedonistic societies, who later became Christians, tell of always knowign that what they were doing in regards to living hedonistically, was somehow wrong and they simply kept doing it because ‘everyone did it’ but that they never felt right about it-
This suggests that a universal moral code is present- regardless of whether a particular osiciety has ‘learned to suppress is’ i ntheir own minds or not- they may like to say ‘Well, in our society, noone beleives that is wrong to do such and such’ but in reality, they are simply just tryign to justify their lust and their decisions to deny that a universal moral code exists- but it does- no matter how fiercely they deny it-
onem ore point- Dawkins woiuld argue that the universal moral code is nothign more than a virus- contracted be being sneezed upon by other infected people- no really- he did suggest this- He calsl it the ‘God Gene/Virus’ or somethign to that effect- it’s his desperate attempt to poo poo the idea of a iniversal moral code because if there’s a universal moral code, then there msut be a universal moral code Giver
[[fail to meet the test of extension of spatiotemporality.]]
Does it fail to meet it IF there are ‘alternate universes’ where we exist i nthe future at the same tiem we exist i nthe here and now here? (note- I don’t beleive i nthe ‘other dimenskions’ hypothesis- but it’s kinda fascinating ot think about)
Thoughts related in/to/with/upon spacetime via the chemistry of the brain, but the reality of a thought is not bound by the linear temporal perspective with which we are familiar, so we categorize a thought as an abstraction from spacetime. But I don't believe it is an abstraction, it just exists as a very different spatio-temporal phenomenon than what we have heretofore conceptualized.
IF lifeforce is a dimension--like Space and Time are dimensions--then some variability of that dimension has more fundamental support for a thought than space or time, perhaps even no space, but some variable expression of dimension Time, else there would be no storage which could be retrieved via the brain of the physical body.
I used to be a fairly good Chess player. As I could play a full game in my head, without a board in front of me, even if my opponent was using a board, the reality of the pieces changing positions was an ongoing phenomenon, much the way memorizing openings was building a file bank for use in tournament play. Thoughts are real, they can be stored and retrieved. They may not have spatial quality, but they definitely have temporal quality ... my retrieval mechanism ain't what it used to be. ;^) Have a pleasant evening and thanks for the exchanges.