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To: HiTech RedNeck
Epiphenomenalism is the concept which describes the sudden appearance of an emergent property (a new kind of property) which is unique in its property and character which appears sui generis. If we assume that mental properties are genuinly emergent sui generis properties, then given the mereological hierarchy and its top/down causation, the emergent mental properties presents at least two problems for naturalism. First, for those naturalists who accept a causal criterion of existence, emergent mental properties are epiphenomenal and thus do not esist in their mind. One must either accept phenomenal consciousness, which construes emergent mental properties along familiar lines as what-it-is-like to be such and such and rejects causal closure or one retains causal closure and rejects phenomenal consciousness exactly because it is epiphenomal. That is to say with a metaphysical naturalist or physicalist that quality which is epiphenomenal cannot be reduced to a basal causation in the merelogical hierarchy. It cannot be reduced to any other that itself. It is not the stuff of this universe and is not compelled by the physical laws of the universe. Mental properties are emergent in the sense that they are genuinely new kinds of properties.

I hope that helps.

215 posted on 09/07/2012 11:44:27 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: Texas Songwriter

i just must dig out that philosophy 101 text


217 posted on 09/08/2012 8:17:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Texas Songwriter

Like a secular counterpart to the extreme forms of Christian Calvinism, it’s a cop out.


218 posted on 09/08/2012 8:27:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Texas Songwriter; HiTech RedNeck; tacticalogic; betty boop; TXnMA
Excellent reply to HiTech Redneck's question!

All that I would add is that the word means "secondary symptom" and traces back to 1706. It probably predates scientific study of physical brains. And that the metaphysical naturalists today emphasize that the epiphenomena (mind, soul, spirit, consciousness) cannot cause anything to happen.

222 posted on 09/08/2012 10:35:11 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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