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1 posted on 08/26/2012 12:42:51 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

IOW, current retirees have no problem screwing their kids.


2 posted on 08/26/2012 12:49:49 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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So the money they steal from you for “your” retirement, because they do not trust you to save for yourself, that they spend on social programs leaving an IOU in your account and that goes to able bodied 18 year olds with attention deficit disorder, Puerto Ricans who are “depressed”, and illegal aliens...is short on money.

Solution, steal more money from you.

Brilliant!


3 posted on 08/26/2012 1:06:14 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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My SS taxes are almost as high as my Federal income tax. I suspect this is true for most families with income under $100k - there are no deductions or exemptions to Social Security....its just a flat rate, and its pretty high. Count the employer contribution, and SS taxes are much higher than my income taxes.

My SS taxes already eclipse my state taxes (literally double), and that doesn’t even count the employer contribution.

The money supply is fairly finite (notwithstanding some fed pumping). To raise the SS tax would just remove a large amount of money from private hands, which never goes well.


4 posted on 08/26/2012 1:06:27 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Shouldn't the Headline read "RAISE TAXES ON SOMEONE ELSE"? After all, that is exactly what they're getting at.

The “full” SS retirement age should be raised to 70 from its current 67 in one month a year increments IMHO. In 2013, 67 and one month, in 2014, 67 and two months, until they hit age 70. Since I was born in 1953, my full retirement age is 66 years old.

I was diagnosed with Leukemia seven years ago so I decided that I will draw the SS reduced Benefit at age 62. Better to get a little of my money back before I buy the Farm, then take a chance and get NADA. My “estimated” shelf life ends in my mid 60’s unless Big Pharma invents some new drugs. I'll hope for the best, but I'll always expect the worst. Kind of like the November Election...

5 posted on 08/26/2012 1:06:27 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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Let’s see

Current and past recipients get/got more than they paid in

Current workers pay far more than prior generations and will get less than they put in

So the answer is.....?


6 posted on 08/26/2012 1:06:37 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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OK, I've leaving this out for discussion.

1) Remove the SS payments from the general fund, put them in their own 'trust fund' like the National Highway Trust Fund. Congresscritters can't touch the NHTF unless it deals directly with road and highways.

2) Take a small percentage (.1% - .5%) of the royalties from new oil production on federal lands and put that directly into the SS Fund (Step 1 in place FIRST).

Just my thoughts.

11 posted on 08/26/2012 2:25:16 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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Wait. I thought George Bush Senior saved social security back in 1990???? Why does it need to be saved again? Maybe it never really was saved and we were lied to.


12 posted on 08/26/2012 2:25:25 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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I wonder why privatize Social Security wasn't named as an option. The either/or, damned if you do/damned if you don't choice of raise taxes or cut benefits would have probably gone down in flames to a third choice of privatization.
13 posted on 08/26/2012 2:41:36 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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I’m sure they didn’t offer the “investigate EACH recipient to make such they are eligible, and prosecute those who aren’t” option when they took the poll.

It would have recieved over 75%, giving the polltakers an anurism.

I’ll wager MY OWN SS that such a step would ‘save SS” for many many decades without any increase in taxes.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 2:46:08 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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If I was in office, the first bill I would present is a revision to the requirements on paystubs that show exact percentages being paid into each program, including employer portions of SS, Medicare, healthcare and all other payroll taxes/fees so employee recognize the total amount of outlay their employer has to hire and maintain their employment.

Additionally, I would revise the tax forms so the signatures are actually on a separate page, with a full breakdown, tax rates, and breakdown of everything being paid, both in total paid, and percentage of earnings. The filer would need to initial each line to ensure they reviewed it.


15 posted on 08/26/2012 2:49:29 PM PDT by ilgipper
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It’s an AP poll, they probably polled 50% D 40% d claiming to be Is and 10% R


17 posted on 08/26/2012 3:46:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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More BS from the Associated Presstitutes. Nowhere in their bogus survey, do they give respondents a third option: CUT SPENDING IN OTHER PROGRAMS!

Eliminate the Dept of Energy, Commerce, Education, HUD, AmeriCorps. Cut Agriculture, State, Justice, EPA and Treasury in HALF. Trim some from every other department as well (yes, even Defense). Kick all the deadbeats off SSI, eliminate “crazy checks”. Bingo, plenty of money for SS.


22 posted on 08/26/2012 5:08:22 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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