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To: Jude in WV

You and the other birthers need to get your story straight.

I note that you are strictly jus sanguinis, while a good many of your buddies are an odd combination of jus sanguinis and jus solis, holding that both conditions must be met to be NBC.

In my personal opinion, either condition works, as NBC merely means citizenship at birth, as opposed to naturalized citizenship acquired after birth.

Obama meets the jus solis requirement, and he arguably meets the jus sanguinis requirement, since one parent was most definitely a US citizen. Unless one wanders off into the bizarre la-la land of Obama not really being the child of Obama, Sr. and Stanley.

I note that some birthers have recently headed off down the self-defeating path that his “real” father was someone else, such as Frank Marshall Davis. In which case, of course, Obama would meet both jus solis and jus sanguinis. Except that the law doesn’t recognize the “real father” of the child of a married couple as anyone but the husband. Giant can of large worms.

Neither your opinion nor mine, is a FACT. They are both opinions. And they will remain so unless and until the Supreme Court rules on the matter, which would of course be precisely the role the Founders intended the Court to play.


77 posted on 08/27/2012 3:47:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

NBC doesn’t just mean citizen at birth. There was no 14th amendment when this was written in the Constitution. Native Americans, negroes, foreigners and their offspring couldn’t even vote at that time.

The Supreme Court has already ruled several times and declared the NBC to be the natural offspring of both citizen parents.

Obama’s father was here on a student visa. If Obama was born outside the US, there was a statute in place in 1961 that would have applied where Stanley was not old enough to pass citizenship to him. He was born with the citizenship of his father. I don’t think a NBC can be a dual citizen. So, in my opinion, if he was born in Canada or Kenya, or some place other than the US, he is not a citizen and most surely not a NBC.

I find this issue to be very interesting and very important.


78 posted on 08/27/2012 5:40:02 AM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Sherman Logan
NBC merely means citizenship at birth, as opposed to naturalized citizenship acquired after birth.

Obviously -- otherwise, there would have to be a third category of citizenship that is neither natural-born nor naturalized, and there isn't.

79 posted on 08/27/2012 5:52:33 AM PDT by Inconvenient Truthteller
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