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To: sten

The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 12:40:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.
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There is no constitutional requirement for anyone to believe a person is a natural born citizen if he refuses to provide this simple documents.


24 posted on 08/26/2012 12:47:09 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Sherman Logan

nothing specific, obviously... but you still must provide proof via the standard accepted documentation at the time

which, in this case would be a birth certificate. the BC gives us location of birth as well as age. parentage proving natural born status must also be provided, otherwise the individual could have foreign allegiances by birth, which the founders were looking to avoid.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 12:54:21 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Sherman Logan
The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.

It does provide that voting requirements will be determined by the states. It's a little late to be concerned about now, because I doubt any states will change their laws before the election. But for future elections it could be done on a state-by-state basis.

37 posted on 08/26/2012 1:45:44 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: Sherman Logan
"The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility."

Yes Sherman, and the Constitution doesn't contain the definition for who are natural born citizens just as it doesn't contain any definitions so that the ideas contained in the document would not be corrupted by the natural changes in language. The focus by most on where Obama was born, the lack of documents, is a smokescreen which suggests to those who have been snookered by the ploy that being born on our soil is sufficient qualification for the presidency. The Constitution requires a natural born citizen for the presidency, and doesn't define who are citizens, since those definitions were different in state constitutions among the nine original states approving the 1787 Constitution.

Article 1 Section 8 told congress to create "an Uniform rule for Naturalization". Barack Obama told the world he is a naturalized citizen, for having been born, as he told us, to a British subject, and thus himself born a subject of the British Commonwealth. He is a 14th Amendment, a naturalized citizen, by his own true statement, and not a natural born citizen, eligible to be president.

Obama's able legal staff, certainly including his Harvard Con Law Professor Larry Tribe, made sure he told the truth. Larry, and many other progressives don't like Article II Section 1, but have been unsuccessful in many attempts to amend it. Republicans too have tried to change it, Orrin Hatch in 2003 for example when Hatch wanted to enable Schwarzenegger to run. Obamo told us all he was ignoring the Constitution, not because of where he was born - he was probably born in Hawaii - but hides his papers to distract from the real issue. Obama has told us he is a naturalized citizen and is being protected by the usual suspects, including all Republicans, because neither is John McCain a natural born citizen. It was Obama Campaign Committee co-chair, along with Barack, who co-sponsored a bill, Senate Bill 2678, in February 2008, the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. Obama and McCaskill quite openly sponsored that bill to make McCain appear eligible. Certainly they knew that Congress has no authority to interpret the Constitution, but they knew few citizens know that. The bill failed, as may have been intended.

Obama's cadre are very clever political strategists. They certainly confused the issue, and did so once more in April, with McCaskill again co-sponsor, but this time a "Resolution" and not a "bill", in which every US Senator but McCain signed agreement with Judge Michael Chertoff, who testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee: “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

No one will likely see Obama's birth certificate, his school records and citizenship status at enrollment (foreign student status would seem unnecessry given Obama's patron, according to Percy Sutton, was Whalid bin-Talal, largest external stockholder of News Corp, owner of Fox News and The WSJ), or his selective service documents. His path has been carefully prepared and identity protected by professionals. Chief Justice Roberts, who may have some secrets of his own, will not let the court affirm or deny the precedent established in Minor v. Happersett. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens ..." If a progressive-leaning court reinterprets the Minor court's definition, at least everyone will know the truth, and decide for themselves if they want to have anchor babies, perhaps born to illegal Wahabbi terrorists, but in Arizona, eligible to be commander in chief and chief executive.

The Supreme Court Case Wong Kim Ark was interpreted to create anchor babies, but it didn't render Wong Kim, born to domiciled Chinese parents in San Francisco, a natural born citizen. Wong Kim was made a citizen. Now progressives are testing whether citizens can be duped into ignoring Article II Section 1. Several state courts, including Indiana, have reinterpreted Article II, and their decisions used to decide a number of challenges to Obama's eligibility, judicial activism, and flawed rulings. There has been no amendment to the natural born citizen provision thus far, in spite of between twenty six and thirty attempts to change it.

49 posted on 08/26/2012 2:16:53 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Sherman Logan; sten

Because it was taken for granted or known to be a fact that the candidates were actually who they said they were and were eligble.

Obvious.


68 posted on 08/26/2012 7:26:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Sherman Logan

No requirement was needed when the Constitution was written. If there are any doubts that would raise a question regarding NBC, then the person isn’t one.

There are Federal statutes governing the US citizenship status of everyone born without natural born citizenship.

There are NO laws governing the US citizenship acquired naturally by birth when both parents who are citizens. That person acquires his/her citizenship naturally from the parents (no matter where the birth takes place).

We are now living in a time where money buys Congress, judges, the presidency and every office on down. Money has bought the free press which could have kept the people informed and the government free of corruption.

I believe in America and our Constitution, but I don’t know of any way, without help from God, we are going to overcome the situation we now find ourselves in this country.


72 posted on 08/26/2012 8:20:06 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Sherman Logan; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; melancholy; RobinMasters; opentalk; bgill; Ladysforest; ...
The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.

There's a very straighforward explanation for that: the framers of the Constitution never foresaw a fraud like Obama who probably did not meet the Constitutional qualifications, yet had the gall to pull such a huge hoax over the nation.

94 posted on 08/27/2012 1:34:11 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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