Missouri conservatives rally to Akin, blast Republican “establishment”

Actually, I had not noticed in the debates that Romney had anything to offer, and he certainly didn't chew up Newt.

However, he did run a lot of negative ads ~ none of which were aired in this broadcast area because, it turns out, Newt wasn't on the ballot.

Next time we'll have a convention and no MIttbots will make it to the RNC National Convention.

So much for chewing someone up ~ when you do it you gotta' make sure you chewed up the others ~ and even Romney doesn't have the bucks to do that.

The way I see it, if Al Franken can be a Senator, why not Akin?

I think we can all agree on that!

Akin said a stupid thing but I am ashamed of rush lately with his sports worship.

He needs some help from his fellow Christians, and even from us Jews, to remind him that idolatry creeps in sneakily. He puts the penn state program and school above keeping little, needy, boys safe from men’s rape, and he puts lance Armstrong as sports hero above fairness in competition. It’s ok to love sports but it is not ok to put it above Gd and His Commandments.

When good men do nothing, evil flourishes. Paterno did not do enough and he is bringing the school down along with every other person who could have gone to the police and stopped the high powered boy raping going on on the campus. Rush is ignoring, when he cries that there is no evidence against lance, all the eyewitnesses and the tests that do show evidence of blood doping. Just because people adore Armstrong doesn’t mean it’s right to ignore cheating.

When you cheat, when you ignore evil, you are committing evil. Period. Rush needs prayers to realize that.

How often do you think that happens?

Which one? That women LIE or that they claim rape after finding out they are pregnant?

What problem do you have with the term ‘magical womb’? If Akin had thought of it when he was nuking his campaign, he probably would have used it. After all, he certainly wasn’t going by the science, so he must have believed in magic.

The only answer is ‘we don’t kill babies’ ~ if pushed you add ‘but you do’. Going into the detail of how women might or might not get pregnant has nothing to do with the thread ~ the reporter was simply fishing for Akin to stick his foot in his mouth which he did.

No, because he couldn’t back-up what he was saying as fact. That’s all.

Akin said what he meant to say, he didn’t know whether or not it was accurate.

If he misstated a point he wanted to make, it could have been more easily pointed out as in error, it would have been more easily perceived as a mistake, and most rational folks would allow for a correction.

Manipulating the ‘System.’ Women who are willing to kill their own preborn children for mere convenience obviously see lying as a relatively small crime. Rebecca Chalker and Carol Downer admit in their A Woman’s Book of Choices that “Before abortion was legal, women sometimes got abortions by claiming that they had been raped.”[73]
Pro-abortion women have continued to lie on a huge scale, as proven by the Hyde Amendment’s varying effects upon the level of Federal funding of abortions since 1977.
The Hyde Amendment cut off Federal funding for convenience abortions, and paid for 17,983 abortions to save the life of the mother and for rape and incest in Fiscal Year 1981.
In Fiscal Years 1983 and 1984, only abortions to save the life of the mother were allowed under the Amendment, and the average number of abortions paid for during these two years plunged to 411.
This means that about (17,983 - 411) = 17,582 abortions were performed for claimed “rape and incest” under the Hyde Amendment in 1981.
This brings up a very interesting point. To begin with, about 20 percent of all women in the United States qualify for Federal abortion funding under this Amendment due to their low incomes. As mentioned above, the average number of rapes in the United States each year over the period 1980-1997 inclusive was about 179,980.
If this number is divided by five in order to find out approximately how many low-income women were raped during these years, we arrive at 36,000.
In other words, these low-income women are claiming that (17,582/36,000) = 49 percent of all of their rapes resulted in pregnancies!
To take this analysis one step further, Figure 3-5 shows that about 0.8 percent of all women who are raped actually become pregnant as a result of the act. This means that the number of women who claimed that they were raped to get a free Federal abortion was (49 percent/0.8 percent) = 61 times the number that were actually raped.
In other words, more than 98 percent of them lied to get a free taxpayer-paid abortion!

Lyin’ All Over the World. The phenomenon of women lying to obtain abortions is certainly not unique to the United States. Just as a bogus gang-rape was used as the basis of the Supreme Court decision to usher in abortion on demand in the United States, a girl who claimed that she was a victim of a gang-rape drove the first wedge into Britain’s protective abortion laws in 1938.
According to sworn testimony, professional pro-abortionists alleged that a 14-year old girl was lured into a stable to see a horse with a wooden leg (I swear I am not making this up) and was supposedly gang-raped by four guardsmen. She became pregnant, and went to a crusading abortionist (Alec Bourne), who gave her a free abortion. He then turned himself in. In the resulting case of law, Rex v. Bourne, Judge Alex McNaghten decided that delivery of the baby would impair the girl’s mental health, and acquitted the abortionist.
Naturally, the guardsmen were never called into court to answer to the charge of rape — and for good reason. The incident never happened.
At the other end of the world, a New Zealand commission that liberalized that country’s abortion laws recommended against a rape and incest exception since the likelihood of false reports and the difficulty of checking them would render the exception utterly meaningless.[74]

The Impacts of Lying. When an abortion law is liberalized to allow exceptions for rape and incest, the number of women claiming rape just so they can get a free abortion invariably multiplies by a factor of two, five or even ten. Just as inevitably, all available rape-crisis resources are overwhelmed by the sudden explosion of referrals. Women who were really raped will be victimized a second time because of these liars, and agencies and the public will eventually begin to regard even genuine claims of rape as “crying wolf.”
Additionally, these callous and uncaring women will stretch law-enforcement agencies to the limit. The results may be twofold: When the lying woman is quizzed regarding her “rape,” she may feel pressured to come up with a name — any name, and innocent men will be prosecuted and even jailed (although this result may be welcome to the gender feminists who claim that “all men are, by their very natures, rapists”).[75]
Secondly, the chances of real rapists being caught will drop drastically due to overloading of investigative agencies, and these predators will be perfectly free to rape and rape again.
In just one of thousands of cases of false rape accusations, an 11-year old girl accused her mother’s boyfriend, Ivie Cornell Norris, of raping her repeatedly. Cornell was convicted and sent to prison. After he had languished there for more than a year, the girl admitted that she had lied. Her story was based on an episode of the television program “21 Jump Street,” which had depicted a rape.[76]
Norris’ life was destroyed; he lost his job, his freedom, his reputation, his girlfriend, and all of his savings over this spurious charge. This is typical of the impacts on a man who is imprisoned on a false rape charge. Gender feminists know full well that Norris’ story might be repeated thousands of times annually if women try to get abortions under rape and incest exceptions. But, since they couldn’t care less about the impacts of their decisions on men, they cannot be expected to promulgate any kind of safeguard against this terrible abuse.
The Pennsylvania Abortion Control Act of 1988 required women who claimed to be victims of rape or incest to report their crimes before getting a free abortion from the state. The reporting of rapes jumped significantly the very first month the law was in effect, and police reported that some women admitted that they were reporting rapes just to get a free abortion.[77]
When large numbers of pro-abortion women start lying to get their free abortions, the situation makes it next to impossible for law enforcement agencies to find and prosecute real rapists. As Ferris B. Lucas, Executive Director of the National Sheriff’s Association, said in 1983;

We do, however, wish to comment on the provisions that would allow federal funds to be paid for abortions performed for treatment of rape or incest victims only. The wording would lead a person desirous of an abortion to make false reports to law enforcement agencies which would have to be checked and investigated to some length. These crimes are not easy ones to prove or disprove and resultantly require many man-hours of investigation. American law enforcement agencies are presently overburdened and do not have this vast amount of time available.[78]

This explosion of uncaring liars first occurred in Colorado, when the Model Penal Code abortion law revisions were passed in 1967. This law allowed abortions only to save the life of the mother for rape and incest, and for the mother’s health. Of the 1,850 legal abortions performed in Colorado the first year under this law, 18 percent (or 333) of the mothers claimed to be rape victims.[79]
According to the statistical analysis performed earlier in this Chapter, it is probable that at least 330 of the 333 were lying. This percentage is buttressed by the fact that, in all of these cases, not a single rapist was arrested or even identified, a statistical impossibility in light of the fact that more than half of all rapes are committed by men that the victim knows.
Manipulating the ‘System.’ Women who are willing to kill their own preborn children for mere convenience obviously see lying as a relatively small crime. Rebecca Chalker and Carol Downer admit in their A Woman’s Book of Choices that “Before abortion was legal, women sometimes got abortions by claiming that they had been raped.”[73]
Pro-abortion women have continued to lie on a huge scale, as proven by the Hyde Amendment’s varying effects upon the level of Federal funding of abortions since 1977.
The Hyde Amendment cut off Federal funding for convenience abortions, and paid for 17,983 abortions to save the life of the mother and for rape and incest in Fiscal Year 1981.
In Fiscal Years 1983 and 1984, only abortions to save the life of the mother were allowed under the Amendment, and the average number of abortions paid for during these two years plunged to 411.
This means that about (17,983 - 411) = 17,582 abortions were performed for claimed “rape and incest” under the Hyde Amendment in 1981.
This brings up a very interesting point. To begin with, about 20 percent of all women in the United States qualify for Federal abortion funding under this Amendment due to their low incomes. As mentioned above, the average number of rapes in the United States each year over the period 1980-1997 inclusive was about 179,980.
If this number is divided by five in order to find out approximately how many low-income women were raped during these years, we arrive at 36,000.
In other words, these low-income women are claiming that (17,582/36,000) = 49 percent of all of their rapes resulted in pregnancies!
To take this analysis one step further, Figure 3-5 shows that about 0.8 percent of all women who are raped actually become pregnant as a result of the act. This means that the number of women who claimed that they were raped to get a free Federal abortion was (49 percent/0.8 percent) = 61 times the number that were actually raped.
In other words, more than 98 percent of them lied to get a free taxpayer-paid abortion!

Lyin’ All Over the World. The phenomenon of women lying to obtain abortions is certainly not unique to the United States. Just as a bogus gang-rape was used as the basis of the Supreme Court decision to usher in abortion on demand in the United States, a girl who claimed that she was a victim of a gang-rape drove the first wedge into Britain’s protective abortion laws in 1938.
According to sworn testimony, professional pro-abortionists alleged that a 14-year old girl was lured into a stable to see a horse with a wooden leg (I swear I am not making this up) and was supposedly gang-raped by four guardsmen. She became pregnant, and went to a crusading abortionist (Alec Bourne), who gave her a free abortion. He then turned himself in. In the resulting case of law, Rex v. Bourne, Judge Alex McNaghten decided that delivery of the baby would impair the girl’s mental health, and acquitted the abortionist.
Naturally, the guardsmen were never called into court to answer to the charge of rape — and for good reason. The incident never happened.
At the other end of the world, a New Zealand commission that liberalized that country’s abortion laws recommended against a rape and incest exception since the likelihood of false reports and the difficulty of checking them would render the exception utterly meaningless.[74]

The Impacts of Lying. When an abortion law is liberalized to allow exceptions for rape and incest, the number of women claiming rape just so they can get a free abortion invariably multiplies by a factor of two, five or even ten. Just as inevitably, all available rape-crisis resources are overwhelmed by the sudden explosion of referrals. Women who were really raped will be victimized a second time because of these liars, and agencies and the public will eventually begin to regard even genuine claims of rape as “crying wolf.”
Additionally, these callous and uncaring women will stretch law-enforcement agencies to the limit. The results may be twofold: When the lying woman is quizzed regarding her “rape,” she may feel pressured to come up with a name — any name, and innocent men will be prosecuted and even jailed (although this result may be welcome to the gender feminists who claim that “all men are, by their very natures, rapists”).[75]
Secondly, the chances of real rapists being caught will drop drastically due to overloading of investigative agencies, and these predators will be perfectly free to rape and rape again.
In just one of thousands of cases of false rape accusations, an 11-year old girl accused her mother’s boyfriend, Ivie Cornell Norris, of raping her repeatedly. Cornell was convicted and sent to prison. After he had languished there for more than a year, the girl admitted that she had lied. Her story was based on an episode of the television program “21 Jump Street,” which had depicted a rape.[76]
Norris’ life was destroyed; he lost his job, his freedom, his reputation, his girlfriend, and all of his savings over this spurious charge. This is typical of the impacts on a man who is imprisoned on a false rape charge. Gender feminists know full well that Norris’ story might be repeated thousands of times annually if women try to get abortions under rape and incest exceptions. But, since they couldn’t care less about the impacts of their decisions on men, they cannot be expected to promulgate any kind of safeguard against this terrible abuse.
The Pennsylvania Abortion Control Act of 1988 required women who claimed to be victims of rape or incest to report their crimes before getting a free abortion from the state. The reporting of rapes jumped significantly the very first month the law was in effect, and police reported that some women admitted that they were reporting rapes just to get a free abortion.[77]
When large numbers of pro-abortion women start lying to get their free abortions, the situation makes it next to impossible for law enforcement agencies to find and prosecute real rapists. As Ferris B. Lucas, Executive Director of the National Sheriff’s Association, said in 1983;

We do, however, wish to comment on the provisions that would allow federal funds to be paid for abortions performed for treatment of rape or incest victims only. The wording would lead a person desirous of an abortion to make false reports to law enforcement agencies which would have to be checked and investigated to some length. These crimes are not easy ones to prove or disprove and resultantly require many man-hours of investigation. American law enforcement agencies are presently overburdened and do not have this vast amount of time available.[78]

This explosion of uncaring liars first occurred in Colorado, when the Model Penal Code abortion law revisions were passed in 1967. This law allowed abortions only to save the life of the mother for rape and incest, and for the mother’s health. Of the 1,850 legal abortions performed in Colorado the first year under this law, 18 percent (or 333) of the mothers claimed to be rape victims.[79]
According to the statistical analysis performed earlier in this Chapter, it is probable that at least 330 of the 333 were lying. This percentage is buttressed by the fact that, in all of these cases, not a single rapist was arrested or even identified, a statistical impossibility in light of the fact that more than half of all rapes are committed by men that the victim knows.

“O’Donnell lost because Rove and his types acted actively against her.

I have nothing but contempt for their actions.”
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Ahh....I have a long memory and vividly remember her come out political advertisement starting with the words “I am not a witch.”. And with those five words my heart sunk—she was politically doomed from that point on. I know that she now says she was not responsible for those words, but she spoke and video-recorded them. She should have insisted upon not trying to be so “cute” as should have Akin.

“The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”

Why The Jack*ff, err, Jaco Report? Because it’s one of the most watched local tv news shows here in Missouri. Heavy exposure to the public, simple as that.

Problem is, when Jaco gets you to say something foolish, he endlessly trumpets it all over FOX 2 News-—which has more and longer news hours than any other station in St. Louis. So, EVERYBODY eventually sees it.

I don’t think it was really that much poor judgment on the part of Akin’s campaign manager to go after a huge viewership; I think it was more Akin’s fault for being too cocky and lackadaisical about the interview.

Of course, Jaco has that soothing tone when he interviews guests, so they often don’t even realize he’s the enemy until long after they’ve left the studio and see themselves nailed to the cross on later FOX 2 News broadcasts.

Cheers

A double header ~ you poor people ~ I think you were the pioneers in open primaries and no poor-loser laws too.

As i was saying that's a good way to have your nominating system serve up idiots on a regular basis but when it comes to Washington it's advanced to ALWAYS turning up idiots.

It's almost like not having any representation in Washington isn't it?!

The accuracy of what these doctors told him can be debated but to even have an honest discussion we have to throw out all the crap the media is saying and actually address what he was really talking about.

AND NOBODY wants to talk about that. It might make them 'uncomfortable'.

Agreed!

Cheers

You won't support anyone until the establishment republicans tells you to unless you have no other choice. You don't believe in what Akin stands for but you hate the other guy more. Does that about sum it up?

Not at all. Not even close. Todd Akin is my congressman. I advocated for him, right on this forum, in the Senate primary. I told my friends to vote for him. I voted for Akin and was glad that he won. I agree with him on the issues. I like his voting record in the House--that's why I supported him.

But I did not realize what a bad communicator he is and how tone-deaf he is politically. Right now, he is unwittingly hurting the conservative cause, both in Missouri and even nationally. There are others here in Missouri, just as conservative, who could step in and do a much better job in the race against McCaskill--and deprive the Dems of their "War on Women" poster boy.

It's always a good idea when running for Senate to look and act and speak Senatorially.

Usually that means you do not talk about rape, promiscuity, personal body mutilation options, rock music, rap music, or anything involved in popular culture!

Don't tell them about your favorite comics, or the manga you read while commuting on DC's Metro system from your apartment in the Virginia suburbs.

Tell them 'America needs ~ nay requires real leadership and I am here to tell you how we go about doing that' ~ then spiel your BS with a 3 point program.

Every interview is subject to edit, and just keep the leftwingtards out of the studio. There's nothing you are going to say to them they want to hear so they will mess with you.

When the GOP establishment learns that they cannot win by keeping conservatives off their tickets, they will begin to win elections across the board and then we shall change the face of America. Not before.

What Conservative are they trying to keep off the ticket? Akin is no true Conservative. He is a ONE one issue conservative. That is why the DNC pumped so much time, money and energy into his campaign. They knew he was the only Republican candidate who could not win in the general.
Anybody with even half a brain knows a senator is not going to overturn Roe V Wade.

Hallelujah! Brother Akin may have seen the light with the following apology:

“The fact is, rape can lead to pregnancy. The truth is, rape has many victims,”

Now, if his campaign can get that message across, there may be hope after all.

Akin would have finished third behind Brunner or Steelman without $1.5 million in Democrat ads. Akin is the candidate the Left CHOSE. To see conservatives now rallying for this doofus now would be hilarious, were it not so tragic. Harry Reid - who without a doubt engineered Akin’s victory - is a very happy man.

"' about 0.8 percent of all women who are raped actually become pregnant as a result of the act.'"

Amen. And this does not take into account those women who were raped shortly after having consensual sex with their husbands or boyfriends. In those cases who's the father? The husband/boyfriend or rapist/s?

This topic hits close to home for me. I was once married to a woman whose first born was the result of a rape. At the ripe old age of fifteen (and no... I wasn't married to her when she was fifteen) a man living down the street took a gun to my ex-wife and raped her. She was a virgin. She got pregnant and carried the child to term. When I married my now ex-wife she still had that beautiful little girl with her. My ex-step daughter is an awesome, productive member of society and I thank God daily that she wasn't murdered by her mother while in the womb. However... Putting all of that aside none of this has anything to do with the price of tea in China or what obama is doing to our country.

People.... Please. Akin's record confirms that he is a good Conservative Christian man with America's best interests in mind. His sticktoitiveness in this situation that has besieged him because of the ignorance of so many graduates of public schools is an even greater example of his worthiness to serve in the US Senate. Missourians need to rally behind this man and show the lib-tards and mealy mouthed "moderates (aka wolves/demoncraps in sheeps clothing - RINOs)" that we are not going to take it anymore. We are NOT going to lie down and go silently into the night. The fight is on.

God is quoted as saying, "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

No nation in history has been called a "Christian nation" except the United States of America. Jesus Christ is God. As a nation we are called by His name. I pray the legal citizens of this nation will repent and seek God's face and let Him heal our land.

Akin did nor said nothing wrong.

Divergence.

First issue is the meaning of the words LEGITIMATE RAPE.

Second issue is FERTILITY.

Third issue is Akin apologizing for using the word LEGITIMATE, even though the meaning was blatantly obvious.

This whole controversy centers around the ABORTION ISSUE, and there is no limit to the amount of LYING and OBFUSCATION that will go on to further LEGAL GOVERNMENT (TAXPAYER) funded abortions BECAUSE.... organized crime runs the abortion clinics and they make a ton of money, part of which they funnel back to politicians. The same people who own the Abortion Clinics also own ADULT BOOK STORES, INTERNET PORN SITES, and STRIP CLUBS. Promotion of casual sex increases the number of unwanted pregnancies, and that MEANS MORE MONEY for them.

Even if Akin provided DOCUMENTED SOURCES for his claim, those who think he was saying that RAPE IS OK would never read it, nor listen to anyone who did.