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To: P-Marlowe; MD Expat in PA; DManA; livius; darrellmaurina; C19fan; Charles Henrickson; wmfights; ...
birth control....ectopic pregnancy

There are very few times when I've seen a post advocating such nonsense about social conservatives as does that last post.

There are no social conservatives I know of advocating the criminalization of contraception. That is just pure BS, and can only come from a totally uninformed person. Many conservatives do BELIEVE in not using contraception, but do not BELIEVE that contraception snuffs out a life. IOW, it is not an abortion. Their objection to contraception is that it is a human effort to play God about birth and death. That is a personal religious position that they never have had any intention of imposing on others.

So far as an ectopic pregnancy that is a life of the mother issue, there is no problem with surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. If that tube is removed, then the baby dies, but the intent was not to kill the baby.

That is the issue with abortion: it is ALWAYS and foremost a direct assault on the life of a baby. It is severed limbs, sucked out brains, chemical scalding, etc. It's intent is ALWAYS to kill a living being. And they would have to kill it if it weren't living. And if it weren't human it would result in a cow, pig, dog, camel, etc. But, lo and behold, it always results in a human being.

46 posted on 08/25/2012 8:22:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Many conservatives do BELIEVE in not using contraception, but do not BELIEVE that contraception snuffs out a life. IOW, it is not an abortion. Their objection to contraception is that it is a human effort to play God about birth and death. That is a personal religious position that they never have had any intention of imposing on others.

I dare to disagree. I have seen many posts here by pro-lifers here that claim that the Pill is an abortifacient and that emergency contraception is the very same thing as and no different from an abortion and that it should be outlawed. That may be a minority opinion but it is a position by some on the pro-life side.

So far as an ectopic pregnancy that is a life of the mother issue, there is no problem with surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. If that tube is removed, then the baby dies, but the intent was not to kill the baby.

I agree with you but you cannot deny that some think otherwise.

56 posted on 08/25/2012 8:38:31 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: xzins

That deserves to be said again and again. :-)


59 posted on 08/25/2012 8:43:50 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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