Philman, you keep digging even bigger logical holes.
No one suggested a woman doesn’t know she’s been raped, so not sure what you want to prove with that.
The supposition that Akin put forward is that because the woman knows she’s being raped she is less likely to conceive, and that’s NONSENSE.
The studies you and thos like you continue to site do NOT prove the logical points you are trying to make, and that’s the fundamental problem.
Cortisol in the urinary tract can indicate early pregnancy loss, the supposition however that STRESS in and of itself prevents pregnancy or causes spontaneous abortion in and of itself is NONSENSE.
Cortisol levels SHOOT UP DURING PREGNANCY this is NORMAL, some women produce more than others, it is not simply a reaction to EXTERNAL stress. What this study implies is women whos levels shoot up higher seem to have a higher rate of miscarriage.. However it doesn’t prove external STRESS ends pregnancy, not even close. You are drawing conclusions that are not in the study or remotely implied by it.
Since Cortisol rise is NORMAL during all pregancies, and Miscarriage is incredibly common in early stages of pregnancy, the raised level can be nothing more than the bodies reacting to a natural deformity, or other problem with the pregnancy itself.
Your supposition that EXTERNAL factors such as stress in the womans life, are the cause of these higher levels and thuse the higher results, in a study involving 22 pregnancies, none of which I can tell suggested Rape, or even included the medical histories such as women suffering from PCOS, or other syndromes that are known to raise miscarriage risk.
Let alone other syndromes that affect cortisol production.
Again this study concludes “early pregnancy may sensitive to maternal stress during the placentation period” and suggests futher study should be done, but it doesn’t conclude anything about the nature of that stress OR even that its conclusive, only that more studies should be done, and since this study was published 6 years ago, I assume either other studies were not done, are currently underway or failed to replicate the results of this minor study of 22 women.
You really need to stop creating conclusions that are not there. Women’s bodies undergo stress during all pregnancies and Cortisol rises in all of them, Hell exercising raises your cotisol levels! Are you going to imply women are having miscarriages because they are going to the gym frequently? Implying from that that parental stress of rape will cause fewer pregnancies that willing sex is a conclusion not backed by ANY study or science.
You and others trying their darnedest to defend Akin’s incredibly ignorant statement continue to just follow his same path. What he claimed is NOT backed up by any science or study, and its woefully ignorant for him to have said it and even more so for those trying to create pretzel logic arguments trying to defend it.
It’s a simple question with a simple answer...Do you have to tell your glands to pump adrenalin or cortisol into your blood stream?
Thank you for your valiant efforts here.
Unfortnately, there are people here willing to destroy the pro-Life cause over unsubstansiated ‘science’.
In the mean time...
Cortisol levels and very early pregnancy loss in humans
Maternal stress is commonly cited as an important risk factor for spontaneous abortion. For humans, however, there is little physiological evidence linking miscarriage to stress. This lack of evidence may be attributable to a paucity of research on maternal stress during the earliest gestational stages. Most human studies have focused on “clinical” pregnancy (>6 weeks after the last menstrual period). The majority of miscarriages, however, occur earlier, within the first 3 weeks after conception (≈5 weeks after the last menstrual period). Studies focused on clinical pregnancy thus miss the most critical period for pregnancy continuance. We examined the association between miscarriage and levels of maternal urinary cortisol during the first 3 weeks after conception. Pregnancies characterized by increased maternal cortisol during this period (within participant analyses) were more likely to result in spontaneous abortion (P < 0.05). This evidence links increased levels in this stress marker with a higher risk of early pregnancy loss in humans.
Snip...Cortisol production rises in response to energetic, immunological, and psychosocial challenges (47, 48). Thus, cortisol increases could serve as a physiological cue to women’s bodies that conditions for reproduction are deteriorating.
Snip...Our finding of an association between increased maternal cortisol and higher risk of miscarriage within the first 3 weeks of conception, together with the failure of previous research to find such an association later during gestation (23), suggests that pregnancy may be particularly sensitive to maternal stress during the placentation period.
Pretty interesting, eh?