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Men are endowed by their creator with life. They are not given that right and privilege by their human fathers, but by their Heavenly Father. God is the Creator, not man. Children are conceived by the grace of God. They are formed in the womb by the hand of God. The children conceived in rape are still God's creation. It will always be a sin to abort them. They are not trash. They had no hand in their own creation and no hand should be allowed to destroy them.

Moses wrote down that God created male and female. Together they would be as one. We are told that the flesh body of the Adam was not living until the breath of life which means soul was breathed into his nostrils. And then the first recorded surgery took place wherein a curve was removed to form the woman.

We can know when God places the soul/spirit in the womb is at the conception, by what Luke describes took place with Mary. The soul/spirit is what is alive before conception and continues to live after these flesh bodies return to dust.

We can know when God places the soul/spirit in the womb is at the conception,

So has your position on this thread evolved, or are you still firmly in the Anti-Akin camp?

Do you or do you not subscribe to the doctrine that ALL THINGS work together for good, including political faux paus by sinners saved by Grace?

My political position has evolved somewhat as a result of this controversy. I am more firmly in the "no exceptions" camp of the pro-life movement than I ever was before. I praise God for that.