I say Akin was right; and AIN'T I A WOMAN?**

the conservative circular firing squad | August 22, 2012 | me

[Lorianne]

All of that discussion HURTS the pro-Life movement.
If you want to hurt pro-Life, keep talking about these issues which have NOTHING TO DO WITH ABORTION.

[Lorianne]

There is nothing complicated about it.
You say whether you belive in the rape exception for abortion or you don’t. That’s all

All other disccussion HURTS the pro-Life movement.

[TigersEye]

Right. Don’t confuse people with facts.

[wardaddy]

well said but it will pass right over the torches and pitchforks bunch like a warm evening breeze while they are on their way to torch Draculas castle

[brytlea]

He said legitimate meaning forcible (later clarified). AND the next sentence for anyone who actually listened to the interview was, “but let’s assume maybe that didn’t work...” So he does NOT say a woman CANNOT get pregnant from a forcible rape. As always the left heard something they knew they could use against the pro-life side. And as always our side, in their cowardice piled on.
Was he wrong about the science? I believe he was. Was he repugnant? I think not. He does not believe an infant should pay with it’s life for the sins of it’s father. If you ask the question THAT way how many people would agree?

[brytlea]

I wonder how many on here calling Akin a moron or a dumbass know any more about him than what the lefty media has told them (and in fact this one particular story)? How much thinking for themselves does that take? I’m not sure I buy your entire premise.

[brytlea]

Then you do not know what the term means.

[brytlea]

Rather than me retype, please just see my post #365. It addresses what he actually said.

[Conservaliberty]

There are many things which may cause amenorrhea, the cessation of a woman’s menstrual cycle. Just a few:

Excessive exercising (it happens frequently to gymnasts)
Malnutrition (amenorrhea is frequent in anorexics)
Extremely low body weight/fat composition
Unusually high levels of stress
Certain infections
Abnormal hormonal balances
Cancer
Ovarian disease

[Conservaliberty]

Akin was an idiot, but you are right about the media backlash. People are starting to point fingers at Romney and Ryan simply because they have associated with Akin at one point in the past. (GASP)

[Darnright]

Look. The entire Democrat party is hawking the “war on women” on every front and “Sofa King We” Todd comes along and gives them a great big old stick with which to beat the stuffings out of every Republican candidate running this year.

So, forgive some of us if we aren’t jumping on the Akin bandwagon this go around.

[brytlea]

I never said it wasn’t a tough issue, and we don’t like to talk about it for that reason. However, I think we need to stand up and talk about it in different terms than it’s been talked about in. For instance, I ALWAYS said I supported abortion in cases of rape. Until one days someone said to me, “why should a baby pay with their life because their father was a rapist.” I have to admit, that hit me like a ton of bricks because I didn’t have an answer and I realized that if I were in that situation, I would not be able to have an abortion, when I had to think of it like that. IF our culture thought if it that way and supported women after rape and made them to feel as if THAT decisions was something to be proud of and that they were doing the right thing, I think we would be several steps forward in truly believing in the sanctity of life.
BTW it’s quite interesting how many photos I now see on FB of pregnant friend’s babies, starting quite early in pregnancy. This MUST have some impact on abortion.

[duckln]

Like when etal turned against Pat Buchanan, the fix was in, no conservative need apply.

Now it's, the fix is in, no prolifer need apply.

We should accept Akin and his apology and move on. I can't understand why one word in one sentence from one of dozens of candidates running is put on the front burner by the Republican party and their hacks.

I'm disappointed in the lot of them. I never liked Senator Lott very much, but I care less for the Party that allowed the MSM to toss him on a out of text sound bite.. If they succeed in tossing Akin, despite his base, it will happen again and again in this election cycle.

[Melas]

You’re a good mother nana, and it’s that kind of support that does more to prevent abortion than all of the legislation in the world.

[nicmarlo]

That’s good and what parents really need to do with their kids. Many don’t.

[nicmarlo]

So you see Nic it was a tactic...

Pro-lifers were cruel and forcing a woman to have a baby and they were cruel and forcing a woman to give up her baby for adoption...

But killing the baby in an abortion was never ever cruel...

I made statements 1) concerning women/girls who got pregnant through rape, not through intimate desires and who thereafter want an abortion because of its inconvenience; 2) that I do not believe that God would want women/girls to have an abortion; and 3) that, nevertheless, I could not tell someone what they should or should not do. This, as well as many other things, is ultimately between the woman/girl and God.

I often think on what C. S. Lewis's book Mere Christianity when he wrote, "It is not for us to say who, in the deepest sense, is or is not close to the spirit of Christ. We do not see into men's hearts. We cannot judge, and are indeed forbidden to judge." Yes, we certainly must discern right from wrong in our actions and others. But that is different from judging others. It would be right to counsel a woman/girl after she is raped, and if she became pregnant. But I would still not feel it would be right to coerce her into her final decision.

The bad psychological material is not a sin but a disease. It does not need to be repented of, but to be cured. And by the way, that is very important. Human beings judge one another by their external actions. God judges them by their moral choices. When a neurotic who has a pathological horror of cats forces himself to pick up a cat for some good reason, it is quite possible that in God's eyes he has shown more courage than a healthy man may have shown in winning the V.C. When a man who has been perverted from his youth and taught that cruelty is the right thing, does some tiny little kindness, or refrains from some cruelty he might have committed, and thereby, perhaps, risks being sneered at by his companions, he may, in God's eyes, be doing more than you and I would do if we gave up life itself for a friend.

It is as well to put this the other way round. Some of us who seem quite nice people may, in fact, have made so little use of a good heredity and a good upbringing that we are really worse than those whom we regard as fiends. Can we be quite certain how we should have behaved if we had been saddled with the psychological outfit, and then with the bad upbringing, and then with the power, say, of Himmler? That is why Christians are told not to judge.

see only the results which a man's choices make out of his raw material. But God does not judge him on the raw material at all, but on what he has done with it. Most of the man's psychological makeup is probably due to his body: when his body dies all that will fall off him, and the real central man, the thing that chose, that made the best or the worst out of this material, will stand naked. All sorts of nice things which we thought our own, but which were really due to a good digestion, will fall off some of us: all sorts of nasty things which were due to complexes or bad health will fall off others. We shall then, for the first tune, see every one as he really was. There will be surprises.

~ C. S. Lewis (excerpt from Book III - "Christian Behaviour," Mere Christianity)

[nicmarlo]

I stand by what I stated, and also by my post #376.

[precisionshootist]

I'm still not convinced and certainly this is not proof. However even if he was misinformed on the likeliness of pregnancy that was NOT the point of his statement. The POINT of his statement was that IF a pregnancy occurs as the result of a rape we should still NOT KILL THE BABY. I fail to see how his advocating for the unborn innocent human being is repugnant in any way. I understand their are other views on this subject as well but that does not mean he is some insensitive rape advocate. Give me a break.

If Akin loses this senate seat it will be because of damage done by REPUBLICANS and CONSERVATIVES. Sorry guys but we can't blame the media or the democrats on this one.

I also wonder how Paul Ryan and other republicans will feel if Akin just barely loses this seat and it turns out to decide the majority party in the senate. You can bet they will be wishing they would have kept their mouths shut or simply defended Akin and moved on.

[KC_Lion]

I read through you all's conversation on whether or not to support Mittens, regardless what you choose I would just like you to remember what John Quincy Adams said.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”