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To: thackney
"...oil, gas, nuclear and renewables..."

I would rather have heard "oil, gas, nuclear and economically viable renewables". No more subsidies for wind and solar - make it work economically or drop it.

3 posted on 08/22/2012 6:46:33 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I don’t see coal in there either.


4 posted on 08/22/2012 6:50:35 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Paine in the Neck
No more subsidies for wind and solar

No subsidies targeting any method, even the ones that favor my industry. All on a level playing field.

5 posted on 08/22/2012 6:50:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Paine in the Neck
economically viable renewables

That would be hydro. After all, there's a reason the liberals are in a rush to tear out all of America's dams.

These days you don't need a huge dam to produce a lot of electricity. New generator technology makes the small dams far more viable. 10 or 15 feet of head is enough to produce something in the range of 1 half to 1 megawatt. Unlike wind, they produce every day all day. I can show you a report on two small dams in Ann Arbor Michigan that says those dams where the flow actually exceeds capacity around 28% of the time. When the wind exceeds the capacity of a windmill the generator stops. When the water exceeds the capacity of a dam, the excess is dumped over a spillway and the generators keep spinning.

There are a LOT of dams in the midwest. There are hundreds in Michigan alone. Granted, most wouldn't be viable but enough would be to help make us the world's leading oil and gas exporter.

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Now imagine the number of dams east of the Mississippi and the one thing I actually like about the smart grid is the ability to feed electricity into it from multiple locations.
19 posted on 08/22/2012 7:18:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

He’s gotta fudge “renewables”. Otherwise all those rock-ribbed Conservative farmers out in the Corn Belt will think he’s gonna end ethanol subsidies and go running to pull the lever for Obama.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 8:31:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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