[EnquiringMind]

This is a horrific insult to any women who has ever been impregnated by a rapist. Basically, you’re saying, just as that nitwit Akin said: if a women reports that she was raped and is then impregnated, it wasn’t rape after all? She enjoyed it? SHe asked for it?

Please explain.

[MEGoody]

Are you being serious or just doing a darn good immitation of an FR bed wetter?

[wita]

This is a horrific insult to any women who has ever been impregnated by a rapist. That would be a false perception.

Usually it is dems that are insulted by truth. We do know that rape and incest pregnancies, are extremely rare.

[fishtank]

This issue involves statistics and probability. I think you didn't understand the point of the article.

[chaos_5]

It would seem that I’m jumping into the middle of an argument here so forgive me if I’m not aware of what may have been discussed previously. I think one of the issues at hand with this article is the phrase “substantially increased mid-term pregnancy loss”. Statistically this could be just a few percentage points and it also refers to mid-term. Unfortunately rape victims may still implant and show pregnancy within the first few weeks. I’m sure most such pregnancies are aborted before midterm and this may skew human data on the survivability of the embryo.

In plain English this journal appears to be saying that stress reduces the chance of a full term pregnancy. Personal antidotal evidence suggests this may be true since my girl friend lost 4 pregnancies with her ex-husband and she was very stressed during that marriage.

As far at this notion that if you were raped you shouldn’t get pregnant - I don’t know where that started but the idea is reprehensible (IMO).

[terycarl]

This is a horrific insult to any women who has ever been impregnated by a rapist. Basically, you’re saying, just as that nitwit Akin said: if a women reports that she was raped and is then impregnated, it wasn’t rape after all? She enjoyed it? SHe asked for it?

you really need to pay attention to what was said. If a woman experiences an actual rape, there are times when her body will react differently and she will suffer a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or she will not be impregnated at all.

nowhere does anyone say that she cannot become pregnant, we all know that she can. That having been said, do we then execute the child for the crime of its father???

sheesh

[jch10]

Some women, just some, have this happen. Not all, has nothing to do with any circumstances except stress and how SOME women react.

This is what I got from the article.

[Maelstorm]

Im not saying that at all. I’m just responding to those who get all sanctimonious about science. I think Akin’s mistake was an overstatement based on probably a combination of things he’d read and been told. Women who are raped do very probably have higher miscarriage rates. The science suggests they should. There have been some studies that stress interferes with fertility but there are studies that claim that it does not. Does this mean if a women gets pregnant its not rape. Not at all. Even Akin didn’t claim that it was a certainity that this was the case he simply ventured a badly worded theory.

The point I’m making is there is no monothesistic science and usually what turns out to be true is not simple and easily uncapsulated in sound bites or made to fit perfectly in any one political box. If you really spend honest time studying and reading exposing yourself to the breadth of “science” you soon realize that there are many different facets of it and complex systems like sexuality and fertility in particular are still years away from being fully understood.

I just wish people would bother doing some research before assuming someone is just being an idiot. Akin did overstate the “science” but he wasn’t entirely off base.