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69 posted on 08/20/2012 11:14:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

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76 posted on 08/20/2012 11:29:18 AM PDT by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)

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