Posted on 08/20/2012 5:17:54 AM PDT by xzins
Odious remarks by GOP Missouri Senate candidate Cong. Todd Akin about how few pregnancies result from "legitimate rape" have done more than outrage people across the country and doom Akin's bid to move up from the House.
It motivated the Romney campaign - - already trailing among women voters in recent polls - - to distance itself from Akin by assuring voters that Romney and Paul Ryan - - the "Romney-Ryan administration" - - should they win in November, would not oppose raped women's access to abortion.
"Governor Romney and Congressman (Paul) Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said.
You'd probably say that sounds reasonable and humane - - except it was just three days ago that PolitiFact devoted a lot of space to this issue and found that while Romney backed abortions in cases of incest and rape, Ryan did not.
And had been an abortion opponent throughout his entire political career - - backing an exception only when the life of the mother was at stake - - thus earning a perfect score from a leading anti-abortion organization on this basic tenet of conservative ideology and practice.
News coverage of Ryan’s first congressional race in 1998, as well as statements he made to the National Right to Life Committee, a leading anti-abortion group, show Ryan has taken a stricter anti-abortion view than Romney.
The only anti-abortion exception Ryan favors is situations where an abortion is needed to save the life of the mother, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. The National Right to Life Committee concurs, based on information the group says it collected in 1998 and 2000 from Ryan as a candidate.
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So Romney-Ryan are liberal on abortion. That isn't going to be decided this presidential term, people! In fact, the States have been doing a much better job of proscribing abortion; there are no more abortion clinics in KY, for example, because of a new law requiring abortionists to have hospital privileges.
We need Romney/Ryan to DISRUPT the Obama regime. We need Romney/Ryan for a very specific set of jobs, related to economic freedom. Overturning Roe v Wade ain't among them. Not now.
“Unemployment is worse in 44 states! That is my observation.
This discussion is a waste of time.
The return from the abortion culture is in small steps.”
The all or nothing Purity Caucus wont stand for this!
Besides you realize that Obama isnt all that bad? We can stand 4 more years if it means we can be pure in our hearts and minds. And if he gets out of hand we can scream for impeachment with slogans on poster boards or we can start CWII!
/Purity Caucus logic
That jerk needs to step down asap and let Steelman run and win.
But your response to NT wasn’t honest. At it wasn’t even responsive—it was evasive/dismissive ... so one more time:
“So — let me guess — you’re going to vote for Obama instead, because his “all abortion, all the time” is preferable to Romney’s odious views?”
In the words of the immortal Meatloaf, ‘What’s it going to be boy—Yes? or No?’
I agree with you, but not everyone agrees with us, and Romney isn’t playing to lose.
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What are we to believe?
I'll still support him because we KNOW what we'll get with Obama and Romney has ALWAYS been a big supporter of Israel. I promise you'll want to support him for that reason alone.
Then we have Paul Ryan and Romney couldn't have picked a better VP candidate save Allen West.
In the end, we may just have to take a leap of faith.
Since the end of the primary season Romney has outed himself as:
Pro-Abortion
Pro-Gun Control
Pro-Homosexualism
As if this is relevant at all, unless there’s a 50-50 vote in the senate should he become VP.
The "rape exception" is nothing more than another "and then you can kill the baby" laws that is used for allowing unrestricted abortion.
Akin was answering a question....the people making a mountain out of it are: mercenary liberals who will try and make hay off of any gaffe AND pants-wetting conservatives who give the liberals encouragement.
>> Should we hide what he believes?
No, of course not.
Now, a question for you: should we work our best work to get an anti-Obama elected? Or should we strive to keep Obama?
Should we post ALL of Romney’s views, or just the ones that show him in the worst light?
By the way: what do you make of all the pro-life groups that have endorsed Romney/Ryan? Should I listen to their advice, or should I go a different way?
If you’re aware of any pro-life groups that have endorsed Obama (or Virgil Goode, or Tom whatshisname, or Ron Paul), please let me know.
Of course my response to NT was honest. His was just another in a long line of accusation about being an Obama supporter by those who hate to have Mitt’s dirty laundry aired in public.
Say anything against Mitt and you get accused of being an Obama supporter. I’ve been asked and have answered it hundreds of times.
To be clear: I would never vote for Obama or Romney.
In fact, those who push a candidate they know will lose a percentage of their base that could well be decisive are the ones whose motives should be questioned.
They are clearly Obama supporters.
Romney is lying about Ryan’s position. Ryan’s position mirrors the Catholic Church and the Pope’s position. Romney is trying to force Ryan to compromise his core beliefs to put on a united stand against life and in favor of abortion and homosexual rights.
When Ryan himself actually comes out and says he thinks Abortion is OK in the case of Rape or Incest or the “health” of the mother, then we will know that Satan has won over Ryan just as he has won over Romney.
Let us pray that the evil spirit that drove Romney to be a solid supporter of the homosexual lobby and the Abortion industry does not destroy the soul of Ryan.
It’s prudent to point out that RomneyCare in MA covers abortions far more broadly than ObamaCare.
We've heard all of the "it doesn't matter if a person is pro-life or not" crap before.
An innocent American is murdered EVERY 24 SECONDS in the United States. If that isn't relevant I don't know what is.
I cringed when I saw that statement from the Romney camp.
They could have been much more vague without putting Ryan on the spot like that.
You can condemn Akin’s statement and express empathy with rape victims WITHOUT directly contradicting your running mates convictions.
What a mess.
I thought that was what the ‘morning’ after pill was all about?
Women have been getting around the issue long before Roe v Wade with a D & C in the first trimester.
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