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To: Ann Archy
Jesus would have helped him.....if he would have asked. Very sad.....suicied is so selfish.

We do not know that. Often it is not even knowable. People are mortal, which means everyone dies sooner or later. Who among us has the ultimate knowledge of how any given person's life should end? Does anyone on this planet has some sort of a Master Plan to look at? I don't think so.

Doctor: You have an untreatable illness. You are not young; in fact, you lived a full life and made good things. But all good things come to an end. Your choices are: (a) to spend all your money, about a million per month, on the best palliative treatment - and you will be either in pain or asleep all the time. Or (b) - you give your money to someone else, like your children, or a charity, or a complete stranger so that they can do something useful with it. Understand that the money you will spend in (a) will not do you any good - once it ends you die. Also this money will fall under the broken window fallacy, meaning that the money will simply disappear from the society - the labor of hundreds, if not thousands of workers will be wasted because they will not be able to save you anyway. Expensive (hard to make) drugs and irreplaceable time of doctors will be wasted on a hopeless patient instead of helping someone who can be healed.

Will this patient want to sacrifice himself, deprive himself of a few more months in this world, so that he can do the last good deed for his loved ones? Or perhaps he will choose to be selfish (yes, that word again) and spend all his money on keeping his unconscious body alive until the money runs out?

Who is the hero here, where is the sacrifice and where is selfishness, in what scenario?

The trouble with canned solutions is that they are often wrong. Suicide of a warrior before the battle is certainly a shame, and you can say that the warrior is selfish. On the other hand, suicide of a warrior who throws himself onto a live grenade to protect his team is anything but selfish. One judgement does not fit all.

61 posted on 08/20/2012 2:04:30 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: Greysard
How ridiculous!!! The soldier that throws himself on a grenade to save fellow soldiers ISN'T committing Suicide!! He is doing the NOBLEST of deeds, just like Jesus.....they gave up their lives for friends. There is NOTHING better than that.

If a person wants to spend HIS OWN MONEY to try to stay alive, that's HIS perogative. Now with OBABAMCARE, no one will have that choice......the person will be pushed down the HOSPICE CHUTE ASAP.

62 posted on 08/20/2012 2:47:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Greysard

Rad Job.

Humans are not given the authority to take a life except in the case of self defense or in the execution of capital punishment.

The reason why suicide is selfish, actually an extreme consequence of prolonged arrogance, is that the thinking within the mind of a suicide is directed at self, rather than through faith in Christ.

One might not be able to say much about the cause other than an absolute truth that it manifests arrogance.


85 posted on 08/20/2012 4:46:59 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Greysard

Jeez...you almost make a case for ‘free’ health care.


102 posted on 08/20/2012 8:00:33 AM PDT by Fawn (DEAR JESUS....PLEASE LET OBAMA LOSE.....AMEN.)
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