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To: smoothsailing

Pennsylvania confounds me.

This president has launched a war on the Coal industry. I know there are large liberal bastians in an otherwise sparcely populated mountainous state. But you would think their would be more outrage against an administration that has so negatively impacted the largest industry of a state.

Maybe I am confused about how important the coal industry is to Pennsylvania. Someone correct me if so.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 8:31:29 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Tenacious 1
Simple: Most of the coal industry in in the western two-thirds of our Commonwealth. Most of the libtard cesspools and fraud is in our eastern corners, especially Philadelphia and Scranton.

These metro areas are populated heavily with people who'd rather milk the government teat than allow others to mine coal.

5 posted on 08/17/2012 8:40:03 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Tenacious 1
I'm no expert, but I think coal has so technologically improved itself, the massive manpower it once demanded is not as needed, thus, the power of the union no longer holds sway in the minds and hearts of the people.

Around here (SW PA), the gas industry has usurped King Coal, so the battleground is drilling and fracking.

There's not too much noise anymore about evil drilling and fracking, so what will be PA's demise is apathy.

If PA nurtures a "They're all crooks, why bother" attitude, Philadelphia and Allegheny county will once again defacto paint Pa democrat, when in fact, PA is a conservative state.

6 posted on 08/17/2012 8:40:19 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Tenacious 1
See the county by county map:

McCain counties are blue, Obama counties are commie red. The only red counties in the west are dominated either by cities (Pittsburgh and Erie) or libtard university towns (Indiana and State College).
8 posted on 08/17/2012 8:45:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Tenacious 1

One has to understand the voting demographics of Pennsylvania. Much of the state is rural. There are basically 2 urban areas, that around Pittsburgh and that around Philadelphia. The rest of the state has a significant population and is referred to as the ‘T’.

However Philadelphia is massively corrupt and run by shameless leftists who cheat in elections in ways that would have made Stalinists blush. If you look at Philly election statistics, they have something like 95% turnout in which over 80% votes Democrat. There is nowhere else in the country which has anything near 95% turnout. I think in some years turnout has actually exceeded the voting age population.

Thus you have Philly as a complete washout every election. That’s pure Democrat votes.

The ‘T’ composed of small towns and cities traditionally votes GOP.

Thus elections generally come down to the Pittsburgh area. While Pittsburgh is also a fairly corrupt Democrat machine city, it’s is nowhere near as bad as Philly, so in theory the area can tip GOP and throw the election that way. This is what happened in 88. However Pittsburgh is also very Union, so it’s not an easy thing to do.

Really the GOP has a tough row to hoe in PA since there is so much cheating. Perhaps this voter ID law will take away the ridiculous Philly advantage. We’ll see.


11 posted on 08/17/2012 8:54:04 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Tenacious 1

The coal industry is extremely important to Pennsylvania, but remeber, the Democrat party “base” of urban bums, deadbeats, and parasites far outnumbers those people still left in the dying coal towns. For Democrat voters, it’s more about the “free stuff” confisctaed for from Republicans and handed over in exchange for their votes that matters more than anything else. ANYTHING else. And now that the Democrats have killed the coal industry thereby leaving even MORE people addicted to government welfare, it’s “win-win” for the Democrats.

Hope this helps.


13 posted on 08/17/2012 8:56:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tenacious 1

Like Maryland, Pennsylvania is two states. You have the vast land granted to William Penn, full of gun- and Bible-clingers, coal miners and the like; then you have the extremely populous Pittsburgh and Philadelphia stapling down the two ends of the state. They are full of what cities are full of.

In Maryland, you have what Palin calls “real Americans”, and then you have the Baltimore-Washington corridor.


27 posted on 08/17/2012 9:32:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Tenacious 1
Pennsylvania confounds me. This president has launched a war on the Coal industry. I know there are large liberal bastians in an otherwise sparcely populated mountainous state. But you would think their would be more outrage against an administration that has so negatively impacted the largest industry of a state.

Maybe I am confused about how important the coal industry is to Pennsylvania.

Someone correct me if so.

The creator of the poll referred to in the article was on a local radio talk show yesterday. He flatly stated that the results were weighted 56% Democrat and 38% Republican. He says that this is based on the 2008 voter turnout, but he also stated that the 2010 voter turnout was a majority Republican. Odufus was not on the ballot in 2010, so the fraud squads were not mobilized. See the vast difference?!? I wonder what the raw numbers were??

He "says" that he is "impartial", but when he is interviewed, he is a lib, and supports lib causes.

32 posted on 08/17/2012 9:57:21 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Tenacious 1

Hmmmm ..??? Today I saw a video of Romney in Coal-country, and there was a big sign saying, “Coal Miners for Romney”.

Looks like Obama has caused the miners to rethink their vote.


33 posted on 08/17/2012 10:04:59 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Tenacious 1

NEPA is still voting for JFK and Dan Flood but lately illegals have been moving in to replace the aging and dying JFK voters. I went to parochial school in Hazleton, aside from pictures of a few Saints and the current Pope, pictures of JFK hung in every classroom right next to the original George W.


34 posted on 08/17/2012 10:07:54 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: Tenacious 1
Pennsylvania confounds me

Me too. A friend of mine grew up in coal country east of Pittsburgh and he says the entitlement mentality is the culprit. As the industries (railroads, oil, steel, coal) have drawn down the majority of the laid-off workers have gone onto the dole. Across large swaths of the state there are white families that are two, three or even four generations removed from the notion of working for a living. My friend has in-laws in this category. None of them have worked a permanent job in decades. They receive welfare, foodstamps and a housing stipend of some sort from the state. Thier kids went straight from college(!) to the unemployment line a decade ago when jobs were plentiful and there wasn't much of an excuse. They aren't typical donk voters, but they recoil from the idea of voting for someone who might derail the gubmint gravy train. My friend swears that folks like this are legion in rural PA. Based on past elections, he might be right.

43 posted on 08/17/2012 11:06:09 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Pennsylvania confounds me.


It does me,too. and I was born here.

However,the gas/oil boom in N.Pa is changing things for the better up here.
At least I think so.
Its not just the gas/oil but all the other side business that benefit from the influx.
Most everyone in the oil bussiness our pro-family,obviously hard workers, and they have money to infuse into some of the pooreer areas.
All things that appeal to non-communist and or non-reliefers.


46 posted on 08/17/2012 12:12:42 PM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil--A-merican)
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