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To: Vigilanteman
The same worn-out argument presented by Quisling Gleason.

I guess I was thinking of the same worn-out argument presented by the nation's founders. Whatever. Anyway, Pennsylvania looks like it's returning to common decency with the recent statewide elections of Republicans Pat Toomey and Tom Corbett. I'd hate to give anything to the rats when we don't have to.

57 posted on 08/15/2012 9:56:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
The nation's founders left it up to the individual states on how electoral votes should be allocated. They didn't specify winner-take-all by statewide popular vote. They didn't even favor that method privately.

In fact, in the early days of our republic, the most popular method of allocation was by decision of state legislatures. Splitting electors was fairly commonplace. You can look it up.

Yes, 80% or more of our fair commonwealth is made up of reasonably decent, honest people. It is the 20% which enthusiastically back criminals and fraudsters time after time which we have to contain.

Voter ID is one tool to help, but electoral vote allocation by congressional district would be far more effective for the reasons mentioned.

68 posted on 08/15/2012 11:46:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lancey Howard
Just for fun, I looked it up here and found out the following:

  1. 1824 was the first time the states selected presidential electors by popular vote, 18 of them chose said method and 6 kept the state legislature method.
  2. 1816 was the first time in which no state split electoral votes (although there were a handful of abstentions).
  3. 1836 was the second time in which no state split electoral votes (no abstentions this time).
  4. 1832 was the election in which Delaware gave up the state legislature selection method and joined every other state except South Carolina in using the popular vote method.
  5. South Carolina hung on to the state legislature allocation method until it was readmitted to the union after the Civil War.
  6. Congressional district allocation method was first introduced by Maine in 1972.
  7. Nebraska joined Maine in using this method in 1992.
  8. Accordingly, the winner-take-all by statewide popular vote method has only been used from 1864-1968, or for 104 years of our republic. Even during that 104 years, we've had multiple incidents of states splitting electoral votes for various reasons.

69 posted on 08/15/2012 12:14:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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