Posted on 08/15/2012 7:58:03 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight
A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday refused to grant an injunction on a new voter identification law that Democrats say could harm President Obamas re-election chances by unfairly targeting minorities, college students and others in a key swing state.
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More likely some Federal lefty appeals judge will step in and issue the injunction less than 72 hrs. before voting begins to cause maximum chaos.
Not all states accept such IDs but PA does. Among the valid IDs accepted under this law are these:
There is NO undo burden.
That is what I was thinking. The Democrats will get an injunction in time to get out 110% of the vote in their favorite precincts. But there won’t be enough to time to appeal it...
It's already been there. Indiana's law was upheld, and states are now modeling their laws on Indiana's.
You’re gonna laugh. Do you know what a successful appeal on Pennsylvania might be based on?
The Amish. Not a euphemism for “Muslims”, the actual Amish. They refuse to have their pictures taken.
Interestingly, this PA judge was a Democrat and appointed by Bob Casey. He switched parties later and runs for re-election as a Republican.
In fact, in the early days of our republic, the most popular method of allocation was by decision of state legislatures. Splitting electors was fairly commonplace. You can look it up.
Yes, 80% or more of our fair commonwealth is made up of reasonably decent, honest people. It is the 20% which enthusiastically back criminals and fraudsters time after time which we have to contain.
Voter ID is one tool to help, but electoral vote allocation by congressional district would be far more effective for the reasons mentioned.
Thanks!
I appreciate the information. Interesting history.
That is interesting.. I wonder if there is a corrupt scumbag Amish Democrat somewhere who would act as "plaintiff" in such an appeal? Do the Amish object to giving fingerprints? If the law allowed for fingerprints in lieu of photo, I bet it would pass muster. Of course, THEN listen to the scumbag Democrats jump up and down and holler!
In Texas you must register to vote in the county in which you live and only those who are trained and certified can personally sign up voters. This made it impossible for organizations like Acorn to come in from another state and sign people up willy nilly. The judge involved was appointed by Obama!
Election this year has been a total disaster from a management, timing and cost standpoint because of the involvement of the Federal government in our redistricting plan, numerous delays, lawsuits, etc. We were beginning to wonder if we were ever going to be able to finish our primaries prior to the general election in November. Made it very difficult on candidates and those physically running the elections.
If candidates don’t get at least 50% of the vote in a primary, there is a runoff. Our last one just ended on July 31 - one of the many contests was the one involving Cruz who was the successful Tea Party candidate for Senator and ran against Dewhurst for Hutchison’s seat.
Of course there are a few pinheads who just throw around insults. I hope I didn't come off as one of these in my initial response to you. And, if I did, I hope the research and facts provided will make appropriate amends for it.
It depends. We have a lot of Amish in our part of Pennsylvania. The modern friendly type have no objection to being photographed. Some even go so far as to encourage it as they consider it part of their business promotion. These types might even have a community telephone outside their living areas. The justification being that they are keeping within the spirit of the order as long as it isn't in their home.
We've had some of these types do work for our company in the past. They are very adept with power tools. I asked one about the apparent conflict once. He just smiled and told me there is nothing wrong with using the tools, just with owning them. Some of these Amish actually are registered to vote and do so. You can tell by the returns of certain Amish dominant precincts in this part of the state and the Maryland panhandle, overwhelmingly GOP as you might suspect.
The old order Amish are, of course, a different breed who conform more closely to the notions of the English (that's us, the non-Amish). They won't have a telephone in the neighborhood and they won't be photographed, at least voluntarily. You will find them more to the north and west of us, especially in Ohio, as opposed to those to the south and east of us. They are also not registered to vote and actively discourage such participation among their membership.
They eschew using the law even more than their more modern-friendly counterparts. In fact, really the only times you see the Amish using the law are in religious freedom cases, most of which have been brought at the urging of a handful of honest conservative and good neighbor lawyers either working pro-bono or nearly so. The typical Amish response to an unjust law is to ignore it. Some of them even go voluntarily to jail rather than submit as they consider it a trial of their faith. Smart judges in Amish country understand this and do everything in their power to dismiss such cases on technicalities or let the offenders off with a slap on the wrist.
So if one of the old order types ever gets manufactured to make such appeal, the appropriate counter would be to produce one of the modern-friendly types to counter such B.S.
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