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To: SJackson

The author’s argument is insufficiently defined. Universal suffrage is the real failure, not the 19th Amendment.

Heinlein’s ideas of distinguishing civilian from citizen and that citizenship must be earned is looking better and better every day.


11 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:45 PM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: vikingd00d
Universal suffrage is the real failure

This is going to be a great debate within the next couple hundred years - sooner if we have a massive economic collapse in the West. We are not ready to talk about it yet - probably not in our lifetimes, but it's coming.

Heinlein’s ideas of distinguishing civilian from citizen and that citizenship must be earned is looking better and better every day.

In the end, I think the real issue here is, we simply can not allow those dependent on the government to vote themselves more freebies. Yes, women tend to fall for emotional political appeals and that is a problem. But it would be enough to simply decide that a full voting citizen (man or woman) is only someone who is not collecting cash from the productive members in society. One day society is going to realize that the dependent class shouldn't be voting.

Definitely not an issue to discuss seriously right now though, any person or party that brought it up would be destroyed at this time.

33 posted on 08/14/2012 5:45:11 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: vikingd00d

Agreed; but the intelligence requirement must also be contained in that scenario, I have known an awful lot of really dumb service folks. Of course that was back in the late 60s and early 70s when they were drafting any thing that could breath and walk at the same time. I enlisted in 68 and met some real dim bulbs in the Corps; and they were still very particular about the quality of recruit they were willing to take. A lot of them were busted right out of boot camp and sent to other services or the reserve.


39 posted on 08/14/2012 6:12:54 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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