[Wonder Warthog]

"I sure hope you have better success than the cold fusion guys have had. More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device. "

Well, the "cold fusion" guys are already way ahead of the "hot fusion" crowd, which has had half a century, $250 billion, and has yet to produce a single over-unity device.

And despite your assertions, there have been a number of "demonstrable devices", especially recently, that have demonstrated "over-unity" performance. Celani's is running NOW on the exhibit floor of NIWEEK, and Schwartz's "Nanor" device has been running for months at MIT. And there are others.

[Moonman62]

Well, the "cold fusion" guys are already way ahead of the "hot fusion" crowd, which has had half a century, $250 billion, and has yet to produce a single over-unity device.

I did a Google search for over-unity device, and it spit back all sorts of weird things including the Wiki entry for "perpetual motion." LOL!

[Moonman62]

Celani's is running NOW on the exhibit floor of NIWEEK,

Celani claims (unsubstantiated) that he's getting a cool 10 watts of heat after loading his wire for three hours. Sounds like a cure for insomnia to me.

and Schwartz's "Nanor" device has been running for months at MIT.

Nothing more than "Schwartz says," and he's a cold fusion crank who doesn't even know how to set up a URL for his company's website.