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To: sometime lurker

The Hague Convention on International Adoptions, to which the US is a signatory DOES allow the citizenship laws of the adopting nation to be honored so as to facilitate adoption in the host country. Pakistan does not allow for dual citizenship and undoubtedly required Lolo Soetero to renounce Barry’s US citizenship so that he could adopt him. True Barry’s US citizenship cannot be PERMENENTLY renounced by such actions. However, Barry would have to appear before an appropriate State Dept. official and swear an oath of loyalty to the US so as to repatriate himself upon achieving the age of 18. He would then be a NATURALIZED citizen, and would forever lose any NBC status that he might have had. (Iam sure he was NEVER an NBC) There is no evidence that he did so.

The purpose of Article II, Sec. I Clause 5 of the USC was to protect the office of the POTUS from undue foreign influence, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty NOT to ensure an alien entity like Barack Obama would have the right to assume the presidency one day. The measure was EXCLUSIONARY (only applicable to the presidency and NO other provision of citizenship) and not to be interpeted as all inclusionary so as to protect the office of POTUS.


61 posted on 08/08/2012 1:08:47 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank
undoubtedly required Lolo Soetero to renounce Barry’s US citizenship so that he could adopt him. True Barry’s US citizenship cannot be PERMENENTLY renounced by such actions.

According to the State Dept, US citizenship for minors can't be renounced at all, temporarily or permanently, unless the minor can convince a consular officer he fully understands the consequences and formally swears in front of a consular officer.

However, Barry would have to appear before an appropriate State Dept. official and swear an oath of loyalty to the US so as to repatriate himself upon achieving the age of 18.

Where does it say a child returning to the US while still a minor, who continued to live and attend school in the US for years as a minor, has to repatriate? Please cite or link.

The Hague Convention on International Adoptions, to which the US is a signatory DOES allow the citizenship laws of the adopting nation to be honored so as to facilitate adoption in the host country.

Wasn't the Hague Convention on International Adoptions signed in 1993? Was there an earlier version in the 60's or 70's? If not, it doesn't apply to the situation then.

Pakistan does not allow for dual citizenship

I think you mean Indonesia.

74 posted on 08/08/2012 7:59:06 AM PDT by sometime lurker
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