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| August 7, 2012
| Jamie Reno
Posted on 08/07/2012 3:45:40 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: NoGrayZone
If you notice Elsie, he/she posts the exact things on everyone of these types of threads.Yup!
We actually DO have a canned speech we say at every door.
Why do you think that is bad??
401
posted on
08/08/2012 4:46:28 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Las Vegas Ron
402
posted on
08/08/2012 4:47:13 PM PDT
by
PA Engineer
("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
To: NoGrayZone
If you notice Elsie, he/she posts the exact things on everyone of these types of threads.That's what happens when yer ROGET app is broke.
403
posted on
08/08/2012 4:47:53 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NoGrayZone
... in the HATE MORMONS threads.Keep flinging it on the wall.
Some of it just HAS to stick!!
--MormonDude(I got yer back - take a break)
404
posted on
08/08/2012 4:50:17 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Colofornian
405
posted on
08/08/2012 4:50:32 PM PDT
by
PA Engineer
("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
To: Las Vegas Ron
Thanks FRiend, your tag line is right on the money too!
Thanks, and I think your tag is brilliant :-)
406
posted on
08/08/2012 4:52:13 PM PDT
by
Tamzee
(The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
To: parisa
moochelle, is that you??!You have the first 3 letters almost right.
407
posted on
08/08/2012 4:52:24 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NoGrayZone
Sorry, but your Alinsky crap doesn't work on me.How's it working FOR you?
408
posted on
08/08/2012 4:53:30 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NoGrayZone
That is usually where they post this nonsense.
THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY
CHAPTER 16
The wicked take the truth to be hardLehis sons marry the daughters of IshmaelThe Liahona guides their course in the wildernessMessages from the Lord are written on the Liahona from time to timeIshmael dies; his family murmur because of afflictions. Between 600 and 592 B.C.
1 And now it came to pass that after I, Nephi, had made an end of speaking to my brethren, behold they said unto me: Thou hast declared unto us hard things, more than we are able to bear.
2
And it came to pass that I said unto them that I knew that I had spoken
ahard things against the wicked, according to the truth; and the righteous have I justified, and testified that they should be lifted up at the last day; wherefore, the
bguilty taketh the
ctruth to be hard, for it
dcutteth them to the very center.
3 And now my brethren, if ye were righteous and were willing to hearken to the truth, and give heed unto it, that ye might
awalk uprightly before God, then ye would not murmur because of the truth, and say: Thou speakest hard things against us.
4 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did exhort my brethren, with all diligence, to keep the commandments of the Lord.
5
And it came to pass that they did
ahumble themselves before the Lord; insomuch that I had joy and great hopes of them, that they would walk in the paths of righteousness.
6 Now, all these things were said and done as my father dwelt in a tent in the
avalley which he called Lemuel.
7
And it came to pass that I, Nephi, took one of the
adaughters of Ishmael to
bwife; and also, my brethren took of the
cdaughters of Ishmael to wife; and also
dZoram took the eldest daughter of Ishmael to wife.
8 And thus my father had fulfilled all the
acommandments of the Lord which had been given unto him. And also, I, Nephi, had been blessed of the Lord exceedingly.
9
And it came to passthat the voice of the Lord spake unto my father by night, and commanded him that on the morrow he should take his
ajourney into the wilderness.
10 And it came to passthat as my father arose in the morning, and went forth to the tent door, to his great astonishment he beheld upon the ground a round aball of curious workmanship; and it was of fine brass. And within the ball were two spindles; and the one bpointed the way whither we should go into the wilderness.
11
And it came to passthat we did gather together whatsoever things we should carry into the wilderness, and all the remainder of our provisions which the Lord had given unto us; and we did take
aseed of every kind that we might carry into the wilderness.
12 And it came to pass that we did take our tents and depart into the wilderness, across the river Laman.
13
And it came to pass that we traveled for the space of four days, nearly a south-southeast direction, and we did pitch our tents again; and we did call the name of the place
aShazer.
14
And it came to pass that we did take our bows and our arrows, and go forth into the wilderness to slay food for our families; and after we had slain food for our families we did return again to our families in the wilderness, to the place of Shazer. And we did go forth again in the wilderness, following the same direction, keeping in the most fertile parts of the wilderness, which were in the borders near the
aRed Sea.
15
And it came to pass that we did travel for the space of many days,
aslaying food by the way, with our bows and our arrows and our stones and our slings.
16 And we did follow the adirections of the ball, which led us in the more fertile parts of the wilderness.
17 And after we had traveled for the space of many days, we did pitch our tents for the space of a time, that we might again rest ourselves and obtain food for our families.
18
And it came to pass that as I, Nephi, went forth to slay food, behold, I did break my bow, which was made of fine
asteel; and after I did break my bow, behold, my brethren were angry with me because of the loss of my bow, for we did obtain no food.
19 And it came to pass that we did return without food to our families, and being much fatigued, because of their journeying, they did suffer much for the want of food.
20
And it came to pass that Laman and Lemuel and the sons of Ishmael did begin to murmur exceedingly, because of their sufferings and afflictions in the wilderness; and also my father began to murmur against the Lord his God; yea, and they were all exceedingly sorrowful, even that they did
amurmur against the Lord.
21
And it came to pass that I, Nephi, having been afflicted with my brethren because of the loss of my bow, and their bows having lost their
asprings, it began to be exceedingly difficult, yea, insomuch that we could obtain no food.
22
And it came to pass I, Nephi, did speak much unto my brethren, because they had hardened their hearts again, even unto
acomplaining against the Lord their God.
23
And it came to pass I, Nephi, did
amake out of wood a bow, and out of a straight stick, an arrow; wherefore, I did arm myself with a bow and an arrow, with a sling and with stones. And I said unto my
bfather: Whither shall I go to obtain food?
24
And it came to pass that he did
ainquire of the Lord, for they had
bhumbled themselves because of my words; for I did say many things unto them in the energy of my soul.
25
And it came to pass that the voice of the Lord came unto my father; and he was truly
achastened because of his murmuring against the Lord, insomuch that he was brought down into the depths of sorrow.
26 And it came to pass that the voice of the Lord said unto him: Look upon the ball, and behold the things which are written.
27 And it came to pass that when my father beheld the things which were awritten upon the ball, he did fear and tremble exceedingly, and also my brethren and the sons of Ishmael and our wives.
28 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the pointers which were in the ball, that they did work according to the afaith and diligence and heed which we did give unto them.
29 And there was also written upon them a new writing, which was plain to be read, which did give us
aunderstanding concerning the ways of the Lord; and it was written and changed from time to time, according to the faith and diligence which we gave unto it. And thus we see that by
bsmall means the Lord can bring about great things.
30 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did go forth up into the top of the mountain, according to the adirections which were given upon the ball.
31
And it came to pass that I did slay wild
abeasts, insomuch that I did obtain food for our families.
32
And it came to pass that I did return to our tents, bearing the beasts which I had slain; and now when they beheld that I had obtained
afood, how great was their joy! And it came to pass that they did humble themselves before the Lord, and did give thanks unto him.
33 And it came to pass that we did again take our journey, traveling nearly the same course as in the beginning; and after we had traveled for the space of many days we did pitch our tents again, that we might tarry for the space of a time.
34
And it came to pass that
aIshmael died, and was buried in the place which was called
bNahom.
35
And it came to pass that the daughters of Ishmael did
amourn exceedingly, because of the loss of their father, and because of their
bafflictions in the wilderness; and they did
cmurmur against my father, because he had brought them out of the land of Jerusalem, saying: Our father is dead; yea, and we have wandered much in the wilderness, and we have suffered much affliction, hunger, thirst, and fatigue; and after all these sufferings we must perish in the wilderness with hunger.
36 And thus they did murmur against my father, and also against me; and they were desirous to
areturn again to Jerusalem.
37 And Laman said unto Lemuel and also unto the sons of Ishmael: Behold, let us
aslay our father, and also our brother Nephi, who has taken it upon him to be our
bruler and our teacher, who are his elder brethren.
38 Now, he says that the Lord has talked with him, and also that
aangels have ministered unto him. But behold, we know that he lies unto us; and he tells us these things, and he worketh many things by his cunning arts, that he may deceive our eyes, thinking, perhaps, that he may lead us away into some strange wilderness; and after he has led us away, he has thought to make himself a king and a ruler over us, that he may do with us according to his will and pleasure. And after this manner did my brother Laman
bstir up their hearts to
canger.
39
And it came to pass that the Lord was with us, yea, even the voice of the Lord came and did speak many words unto them, and did
achasten them exceedingly; and after they were chastened by the voice of the Lord they did turn away their anger, and did repent of their sins, insomuch that the Lord did bless us again with food, that we did not perish.
409
posted on
08/08/2012 4:55:43 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Tamzee
You are wasting your time posting to me.You are merely an EXCUSE to post.
There is a MUCH larger audience than you realize.
Some people actually THANK me for posting FACTS about MORMONism.
Obvious, you don't wish to see them.
That's ok. If it offends you so; just ignore me.
Perhaps I'll go away if no one responds back...
410
posted on
08/08/2012 4:58:41 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Tamzee
I think you are ill and I have nothing but pity for you :-(Gee, thanks!
Wanna worm?
411
posted on
08/08/2012 4:59:49 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: PA Engineer; All
You, know, I must confess: I too, for the first several years of FREEPERhood, used to be a thread-loading freeloader -- just like you are now...
But you know, we all fall short of the glory of working fully together to bring truth to our world...me included (even now).
But it's not too late.
We can mend our ways together.
There are other forums, other venues, where I, too, fall short of yielding truth in that environment.
I encourage us ALL to make a difference re: FR thread-production-wise.
You can do it. We can do it. We can all pull together.
(Let's get it done...together...)
412
posted on
08/08/2012 5:01:09 PM PDT
by
Colofornian
(Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
To: Las Vegas Ron
Mormon's want to change the US into a Theocracy (you have no evidence)...I wonder if Mitt feels any different than Joseph Smith did???
...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.
Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.
413
posted on
08/08/2012 5:02:09 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NoGrayZone
We all have our grievances and disagreements but we mostly back them up with facts.Then WHY do I get so much grief?
414
posted on
08/08/2012 5:03:24 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: PA Engineer
The most egregious thing I see is their efforts to speak for G*d.WHY do you find that strange??
1 Peter 4:11
If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God.
415
posted on
08/08/2012 5:04:56 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Las Vegas Ron
Take this politely, SIUYA.(Sorry. I'm not going to let anything of yours anywhere near any body part of mine...If you want to start treating FR as some sort of proposition site, may I suggest you take your "business" within the confines of 'Vegas, where there's plenty of people who will acquiesce to your request...)
416
posted on
08/08/2012 5:05:49 PM PDT
by
Colofornian
(Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
To: Las Vegas Ron
Hehe, I'm sure I'll feel like a fool for asking but I don't get the acronym. You can't stand to read his stuff either?
417
posted on
08/08/2012 5:05:49 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: PA Engineer
To: Las Vegas Ron
Do not ping me again, thank you. Type something stupid; you WILL be pinged!
419
posted on
08/08/2012 5:07:05 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Colofornian
420
posted on
08/08/2012 5:08:06 PM PDT
by
PA Engineer
("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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