Posted on 08/03/2012 1:26:47 PM PDT by Bratch
Dont buy the doom and gloom pronouncements from conservatives telling you, this is the most important election in history. A loss for Mitt Romney would not necessarily spell long lasting disaster for Republicans, nor would it be the death-knell to conservatism. In fact, its possible a 2012 loss could lay the groundwork for a stronger Republican party and conservative movement.
Elections are almost always seen as urgent and morally imperative. But sometimes major victories can only come in the aftermath of what appear to be devastating defeats. John Kerrys loss in 2004 laid the groundwork for a Democratic takeover in 2006 and 2008, and Jimmy Carters defeat of Gerald Ford in 1976 paved the way for the Ronald Reagan in 1980. In other words, it is a mistake to assume losing a presidential election is a permanent defeat.
This should be the most important election since 1980, but so far it is not, says Reagan biographer Craig Shirley. Scottish historian Thomas Carlyle postulated the great man theory of history, and indeed this was true with Washington, Jackson, Lincoln, TR, FDR and Reagan. But history has not summoned forth great men in 2012 and in fact our history today is small.
This is not to say Republicans should concede the election, but conservatives should keep November in proper perspective.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
/johnny
Johnny, That wasn't rehetoric - it was a legitimate question and it wasn't directed to you.
I don't have a candidate and I am not trying to round up votes..
But even though I cannot have the perfect conservative candidate to vote for, I strongly want to see Obama ejected from the White House while there is still a country to save.
I am just amazed when I hear people say they are conservatives but will sit the election out which will make four more years of Obama more likely.
Probably. Starkest black/white question possible:
If the choice is Obama or Romney, will you choose Obama?
So, help me out, who should my family and I support this November?
***I already answered that. Tom Hoefling, Freeper.
My pre-teen kids dont run and tattle like you have done to three others on this thread!
***Do your preteen kids say the same insults to you that they do to each other when you aren’t around? Why not? Because you have authority. FReepers who engage in the same level of behavior, calling us Obama supporters ferinstance, do not do the same thing to JimRob because they are bootlickers.
Nor do they assume that people who disagree with them are gay, either.
***That’s just alliterative rhetoric. I recently wrote “idiotic romney rump ranger republicans” when it should have been “retarded romney rump ranger republicans”. 5 ‘R’ alliterations in a row. It does the job.
I will vote for a conservative for president, and for solid conservatives downticket.
I'm actively working to give Dewhurst the boot in 2014.
The country will still be here in 4 years, regardless of who wins. I intend to see it significantly more conservative.
/johnny
After the first four years of Obama your statement makes me wonder how bad it would actually have to get for you to be concerned and perhaps compromise your sacred “principles”. Maybe a Tiananmen square-type event?
False dichotomy. The choice is NOT between Obama and Romney. There are other choices.
/johnny
The outcome is not in my hands. What I do, is.
/johnny
I don’t think you really know what we are up against. It would be the end of the republic.
***I have appreciated your honesty. So here is mine. We lost our republic in 2008 when the SCOTUS refused to uphold the requirements for the eligibility of the POTUS-elect, as the 20th amendment says to do.
Perhaps it doesn’t alleviate your fears about losing the republic to point out that the republic is already lost. But God knows what we do and how we do it, for love of our country. And God wants us to proceed without fear, rather than to proceed with it.
i totally agree. the worst thing would be the third term of jimmy carter.
blessings, bobo
Second American Revolution and/or Civil War
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Civil War invites invasion by our enemies, amidst the confusion, and fighting, and etc ...
They’d be fools not to try.
JimRob has stated his beliefs and has drawn the line for his home, Free Republic. I respect that.
In case you haven't noticed, he has allowed those of us who disagree to continue to post and comment.
I am not trying to browbeat people to agree with me. I am stating what I intend to do and give an explanation for it.
After the first four years of Obama your statement makes me wonder how bad it would actually have to get for you to be concerned and perhaps compromise your sacred principles.
***Why do you put the word “principles” in quotes? Is it to denigrate such principles? Why do you even wonder what it would take to compromise such principles? There are dozens of non-conservatives actively campaigning on this conservative website to separate conservatives from their conservative principles & vote for a librul. That is not conservative. So go and convert some 0bots into mittbots. We can all agree that such a thing is the proper course of action. Free Republic is not a republican website; it is a conservative website. So, start acting conservative.
Upon reflection, I find it interesting that you want to see what it would take to get me to compromise my principles. I think we know what it took to make you give up on yours.
I almost died on the side of a mountain during a blizzard, bleeding out internally. Family was called because I had already coded a couple of times.
I fear no evil. God is with me. I will do what is right, and leave the results to Him.
/johnny
Why are you only interested in bating people instead of having an intelligent conversation?
***I explained it to you upthread — such freepers are bootlickers, let alone the fact they’re CINOs.
In case you haven’t noticed, he has allowed those of us who disagree to continue to post and comment.
***In case you haven’t noticed, occasionally JimRob has zotted some freepers who have engaged in exactly the same kind of posting behavior that I’m calling out.
I know what Romney’s record is. I’ve also experienced the first four years of Obama, the guy who thinks infanticide is a-ok.
Obama wins, it’s on your head and the head of others with your same mindset. Unfortunately, we’ll all reap the whirlwind...
“So go and convert some 0bots into mittbots. We can all agree that such a thing is the proper course of action”
Do you agree with that, really? I’m not convinced you do, since a second Obama term would be “no big deal” in your world, and a Romney presidency would be disastrous...
Once again, I hold the fate of the Republic in my vote. I gotta be the most powerful nobody that ever lived. /s
No sale. It's on the head of the GOP-E with their dirty tricks and smashmouthing conservatives.
Take it up with them. Ask Dewhurst how that worked out for him. I intend to run his establishment ass out of Texas politics in 2014.
/johnny
I didn't make any comment regarding you specifically.
I had no idea what your position was - if you intended to vote or not.
Once again - you jumped on a comment I made to someone else and got yourself in the middle and all worked up over something that was never directed at you.
Obama wins, its on your head and the head of others with your same mindset.
***Blame game. The other side of the coin. Why are you berating conservatives on a conservative website? This is not a republican website. Go and convert some 0bots into mittbots.
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