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To: Still Thinking
" See, the market takes care of stuff like this."

I sort of agree with you but if the market could take care of stuff like this we wouldn't be living in the festering toilet bowl called the United States of America.

The 50% of us that are honest, tax paying, hardworking and moral are going to have to get very aggressive and confrontational - or we are going to get steamrolled.

27 posted on 08/02/2012 9:38:55 PM PDT by ciaocotc
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To: ciaocotc

Oh, I agree — I was just being facetious. Read my following post to see how I really feel about other people waiving our privacy rights for us. Any time something like that happens, it makes me want to break into their computer systems (not that I have the know-how to do that) and spread all THEIR information far and wide. When they complain, you just say “What, that’s what you did to your customers — did you do something to them you wouldn’t appreciate having done to you??”


31 posted on 08/02/2012 9:57:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ciaocotc; Free ThinkerNY

Believe it or not, it was the actions of a fictional character that first got me thinking about this issue (voluntarily yielding to LEO’s who are after someone with whom you have an existing relationship). Dirk Struan, the captain of a trading ship in several of James Clavell’s books, had a man on his ship accused of some ill deed. He told the cops who came to claim the guy that if they could prove the guy’s guilt, they could hang him right there on the ship, but that absent that proof, not only would he not passively surrender the guy, he and the rest of the crew would fight his capture with force of arms. I got to thinking Isn’t that really the way it should be? If you know someone well and have never seen any evidence of criminality on their part, don’t you owe it to them not to take the state’s word over theirs unless some proof can be provided? Or as in the type cases I referred to earlier, at least require the cops to jump through the hoops to comply with the laws created to protect us from over-zealous enforcement?


33 posted on 08/02/2012 10:07:32 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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