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1 posted on 08/01/2012 3:59:05 AM PDT by tobyhill
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“The error for subgroups may be higher.”


2 posted on 08/01/2012 4:01:07 AM PDT by tobyhill (Defund Obamacare Now)
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I have a harder time believing the Florida numbers than I do for Pennsylvania. PA breaks my heart every Presidential election. Florida, though? I’d be very surprised if this poll is consistent with what others are showing.

Dunno ‘bout Ohio one way or the other.


3 posted on 08/01/2012 4:03:54 AM PDT by DemforBush
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Let me guess... “The poll sampled 1,039 random people in line at the welfare office.”


4 posted on 08/01/2012 4:06:33 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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Even if those numbers are close to right (I doubt it) things will shift towards Romney as we head to election day.

I doubt he’ll take Pennsylvania, but I think Ohio and Florida will break for him.


5 posted on 08/01/2012 4:07:48 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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Unfortunately, that swoon factor is still very much alive among women. Effing amazing...

And how `bout those voters in PA... while Obama openly and happily dismantles their industries, there they are, like a battered but devoted wife, standing (or more accurately kneeling) by their man. `Til death do you part, I guess....


8 posted on 08/01/2012 4:11:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To bad we didn't have a conservative. We would win this election. Now we don't even know for sure if we are going to win. It will come down to the wire with a weak incumbent. How dumb of the Republicans. Oh well. Maybe they will learn in time for 2016....although I doubt it.
9 posted on 08/01/2012 4:12:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GO TO CHIC-FIL-A 1 AUGUST FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER (OR ALL))
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6 points in Florida is an outright lie.
Nothing has to “break” for Romney here, he is going to take Florida by a large margin.

I seriously believe that the Dems know that and are just trying to get Mitt to panic & make a mistake.

This isn’t “news,” it is propaganda


12 posted on 08/01/2012 4:16:58 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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If Romney is leading in the elderly vote in Fl., Obama is toast.


18 posted on 08/01/2012 4:27:49 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: tobyhill

Folks...Its See BS...and all their polling will show Saten in the lead.


22 posted on 08/01/2012 4:32:44 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: tobyhill; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Also, Romney’s Poland trip only purpose... was to gin up white voters.

As opposed to The Obamation going to the NAACP Convention... to gin up black votes, eh, Cokie?

That is typical, Bender, of all your Right-Wings guys who have been calling me... a cold, arrogant, ultra-liberal bitch all these years--

Well, Cokie, when you got it dead-solid right... you don't need to change your message!

25 posted on 08/01/2012 4:44:15 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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You Go obama! You’re doing just great! CBS says so! No need to worry...

No need for donations from “the poor”

They don’t even need to go vote...! you got it in the bag!


33 posted on 08/01/2012 4:51:55 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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Not surprising.

People WILL LIE to the poll takers so as NOT to be accused of the “r” word. What they do in the privacy of the voting booth will be different.


36 posted on 08/01/2012 5:03:24 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Here’s how Gallup has the party id in FL and OH.

Ohio D +1.5
Florida D +2

Yet both polls have D +8 or so.


37 posted on 08/01/2012 5:04:08 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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Romney leads by seven points among Ohio whites

Huh! How is Romney up 7 with whites and down 6 overall?

It would be statistically impossible unless a vast majority of Ohio is minority.
38 posted on 08/01/2012 5:06:43 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: tobyhill

Lemme guess, those three states are the 55-57th states?


43 posted on 08/01/2012 5:24:06 AM PDT by bgill
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Obama leads by 22 among independents in PA

In 2008, during the Obama Hope/Change fever, Obama won independents in PA by 13 points. And 4 years later (after an economic train wreck) he's almost doubled the support?

Right!
44 posted on 08/01/2012 5:24:37 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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(1) Take it for what it's worth. Polling is art, not science. That's why we bother to vote,and don't just say, "Oh, Mr. X is ahead in the poll...he wins!"
What would interest me more is polls shifting when conducted in identical fashion - and even at that "identical" is only a guess.

(2) The campaign has barely begun. In about a month the cannon balls will really be flying. Sadly, there are a lot of ignorant voters - not to mention the illegal ones that Demonrats will protect come hell or high water. I'm afraid a lot hinges on the "debates", because that will be many sheep's first unfiltered look at the candidates.

(3) I believe Romney will win the popular vote. Remember when SoreLoserman won the popular vote, but lost in the Electoral College? All kinds of talk in the Demonrat Media about how EC was a relic that we need to do away with it. (Truth is, it is an important check on localized election corruption.) If the tables are turned in this election, how much do you want to bet there is nary a peep? Any takers?

45 posted on 08/01/2012 5:28:13 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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Last week I drove my daughter from Atlanta, GA to New Jersey to visit her grandparents. I did not see one Obama sticker on any car till I got to Pennsylvania (I did see a “Nobama” sticker in Virginia). Once there I saw dozens of cars with Obama 2012 stickers (usually above the Coexist or Celebrate Diversity stickers). Interesting to note I saw a lot of Obama campaign commercials while in New Jersey. I thought that was a safe state for him.


55 posted on 08/01/2012 5:49:31 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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Note the accompanying CBS/NYT/BS poll: “89% of gun owners would swap their guns for baby unicorns”.


63 posted on 08/01/2012 6:05:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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Rasmussen also has an Obama lead in Ohio, but only by 2 points.

Rasmussen has a much more likely party affiliation weighting. And to suggest Ohio leans democratic is simply a denial of history.

I forget Rasmussen’s numbers on Florida, but I believe he had a tie or a slight Romney edge.

He also has Romney ahead nationally by a few. The national polls are always deceptive, though, because the election is state-by-state. A national lead, though, says that Romney is holding his own for the time being.

To win, though, he needs to shake loose the swing states. His strategy so far has not accomplished that, but it’s still early.


67 posted on 08/01/2012 6:58:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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